Anyone in the UK using it ??
It used to be about the most expensive paper over here.
Made in Japan I think. I only ever used it very briefly for lith work and it was gorgeous ! Gave much gentler lith look which I really liked.
I think when it first came out it was called Seagull, then the company went under, resurfaced and produced it again but was named Oriental ?
Silverprint was the main stockist over here but it disappeared never to be seen again. I assumed it was out of production
Bill
The manufacturing plant was closed, but a bought-in paper is still being sold as 'Oriental Seagull'. This does not lith, is not the same specification as the original, and can be sourced in the original manufacturers packaging much more cheaply. Which is why, at Silverprint, we stopped dealing with it.
In the USA, the Seagull (labeled) papers are cheaper than Ilford and Foma..so who is the manufacturer of the paper labeled as Oriental Segull??
I don't think Ilford ever said that. What Simon has posted is that Ilford will no longer provide its own standard products for sale under other brand names. It does, however, custom manufacture on contract to others' specifications for products which are then sold under those sellers' brand names...Perhaps of note that Ilford (Harman) who once professed vehemently that they were not 'own label' manufacturers are now in the business of doing special blends, eg the Bergger arrangement.
So then there were three generations of Oriental Seagull? The paper Adams used in the 1980s, another paper made from around 1997-2000, and then this newest paper which is made by someone else?
I'm guessing that the last version I tested was probably of the 1997-2000 vintage.
At one time, this used to be the "ultimate" b/w paper for many. I, however, have never tried the fibre based Oriental Seagull papers.
I don't think Ilford ever said that. What Simon has posted is that Ilford will no longer provide its own standard products for sale under other brand names. It does, however, custom manufacture on contract to others' specifications for products which are then sold under those sellers' brand names.
I am trying to purchase a good lithable paper .. rolls 42inch by 100ft, willing to place a 10 roll order today.
I placed this order one year ago with fotospeed my first choice, to no avail.
I really liked Maco RF g2 but am unsure if that paper is made now.
I really liked Oriental g4 but not sure now if this is the same paper I lithed with up until early this year.....
the paper when packaged like this is extremely curly and
even with two of us man handling the paper , it was very dicey..
I have clients ready to go with huge lith prints 30x40 and
40 x 60 inches and absolutely no idea what paper to use.
Bub,
It's not Guillume Zillio but Guillaume Zuili !
Too much sepia toner fume...or what !
Try Emak on lith with my leftover. You should give a try with Fomatone too.
Bye Bub...
A lot of research has gone into the relaxing of curled and
folded papers. One approach is humidification. As the paper
absorbs water the fibers relax. An inclosed chamber with
water and material support makes for a basic humidor.
Could be worth the ground work. Via Google search
for, humidor documents . I'll check again myself as
even small sheets can have warp problems. Dan
I have to say this , who, what , where , how much, nonsense that is surrounding BW papers today is extremely upsetting.
All I want to do is make some large f... lith prints and I really at a loss as to what is what any more with larger roll paper.
Whats the big secret??
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