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As ugly as Uggs. UHG! Do they give out prizes in Australia for ugly shoe designs?

Blundies are bewt, the eponymous Aussie pull-ons!
I'm wearing them now under my dressing gown because my slippers were accidentally left out in the rain last night...:tongue:
Ugg boots are now available in GoreTex versions but really, they never have been high on the fashionista bucket list, more for the bogans of the outlying suburbs, certainly not for Poshville where we are...
 

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Will be interesting to see how my latest purchase from the US goes (car parts) as the business didn't indicate any GST to be added to the total bill. Total cost for the items + postage only; definitely no GST added.

Wonder what will happen when it lands on our fair shores??
 

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I placed another order on B&H yesterday with no GST added.
My wife bought an out-of-print used book today from 'thrift.books' seller and below is what came up on the eBay payment screens. The seller has over 1 million feedback scores so a relatively big organisation. Good to see they appear to be simply adding 10% with no additional mark-ups or "admin fee" recoveries (unlike Amazon's differential price gouging and reduced product availability). I wonder how long it will take thrift.books to remit the money to the ATO so they can put it towards fixing our crappy NBN service!
GST 1.JPG GST 2.JPG

Here is where you get sent if you hit the "learn more" URL...
https://www.ebay.com.au/help/buying/paying-items/paying-tax-ebay-purchases?id=4771
 

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I'm pretty sure Amzon could make it work, after all it is simply if shipping address = Australia then add 10% and send that to OzGov. I suspect that Amazon doesn't wish to create a precedent that would see it liable for collecting state taxes in the US (which would also be trivially easy). More of an issue for smaller retailers though and I suspect that a lot of them would just say too hard.

Now that SOUTH DAKOTA v.WAYFAIR, INC.,ET AL has been decided, it looks like they're going to have to do it in the USA. https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/17pdf/17-494_j4el.pdf Forty-five states levy sales tax, BTW.
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Some forward-dated Provia 100F and Velvia 50 pro-packs were bought here on Tuesday from local eBay sellers.
Neither invoice included any mention of (Australian) GST reflecting its applicability to under-AUD$1,000 purchases, whether locally or internationally.
It raises the question of whether eBay is covering GST (?)
 

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Well it was 10%. GST in Australia is that value so it certainly caught my eye.
Anything bought through ebay Australia has 10% GST added as a matter of course now.
Buyers should be aware of this as there is a caveat on all sales appearing through ebay Australia that GST may apply.
I really do not think that this will have any impact on purchases from overseas and that the Australian Federal government will have likely under-estimated the amount of revenue that this will raise.
Buyers simply have to do the math before ordering
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Its a pain they dont mention the GST till paying the transaction. Should have "plus %10 GST" next to where you bid so you are aware......especialy after a couple of drinks when your not so likely to look at the country of origin:redface:........anyway I really needed a fstop timer with foot switch.:smile:
 

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Its a pain they dont mention the GST till paying the transaction. Should have "plus %10 GST" next to where you bid so you are aware......especialy after a couple of drinks when your not so likely to look at the country of origin:redface:........anyway I really needed a fstop timer with foot switch.:smile:
Yes a pain in the proverbial. I guess everyone should just expect the GST to be charged and add that to the cost.
I have a Zone VI timer with foot switch if that is any use to you.
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Yes a pain in the proverbial. I guess everyone should just expect the GST to be charged and add that to the cost.
I have a Zone VI timer with foot switch if that is any use to you.
Cheers
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Thanks Tom, but the fstop timer arrived tis good, poor brain wouldn't cope with another timer change.
 

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Time to update this thread as I noticed yesterday that B&H are now adding GST to Australian orders. This wasn't the case for an order I placed in November so must be relatively new.
 

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Time to update this thread as I noticed yesterday that B&H are now adding GST to Australian orders. This wasn't the case for an order I placed in November so must be relatively new.
Yes discovered that a few weeks ago. Got right to the end and just about to hit the pay button and just noticed in time. There wasn't any mention I could see before that.
No point in buying OS anymore unless you can't source it locally. There is getting to be more competitive prices if you shop around. Just wish Vanbah would be more competitive in their postage $32 beginning rate for chemistry is ridiculous others only charge around $10.
 

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Yes discovered that a few weeks ago. Got right to the end and just about to hit the pay button and just noticed in time. There wasn't any mention I could see before that.
No point in buying OS anymore unless you can't source it locally. There is getting to be more competitive prices if you shop around. Just wish Vanbah would be more competitive in their postage $32 beginning rate for chemistry is ridiculous others only charge around $10.

Well I don't really know what you are purchasing, but in my case with 4x5" sheet film, I would be struggling to find anywhere in the world more expensive than what is available in Australia.

For HP5+ 4x5" sheet film, I can purchase 100 sheets from Badger Graphics in the USA for $193.26 AUD at today's conversion rate. Including GST it comes to $212.59 AUD
http://www.badgergraphic.com/openca...oduct/product&path=235_178_253&product_id=626

In Australia with their current 5% discount, Vanbar have HP5+ in 25 sheet boxes for $179.07 AUD
https://www.vanbar.com.au/catalogue/product.php?id=126010

Multiply that by four to get the same amount of film, you end up purchasing 100 sheets for $716.28 AUD; their price does include the 10% GST component, but...........................

Forgetting about delivery costs and the 10% GST inclusion of the locally sourced product, the difference is unbelievably huge.

I can tell you that even if I take the train and tram to Vanbar to save on delivery costs, I fail to see where I can have an approximate savings of $503.69 AUD by shopping locally.

Allowing for the fact that we are a smaller market and there will be some economies of scale, I firmly believe we are being taken for a ride by the Australian distributor and their retailers in this country.

Mick.

PS: if you purchase 3 x 100 sheet boxes from Badger, that is the best bang for your buck with regard to postage from the USA.
 

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Well I don't really know what you are purchasing, but in my case with 4x5" sheet film, I would be struggling to find anywhere in the world more expensive than what is available in Australia.

For HP5+ 4x5" sheet film, I can purchase 100 sheets from Badger Graphics in the USA for $193.26 AUD at today's conversion rate. Including GST it comes to $212.59 AUD
http://www.badgergraphic.com/openca...oduct/product&path=235_178_253&product_id=626

In Australia with their current 5% discount, Vanbar have HP5+ in 25 sheet boxes for $179.07 AUD
https://www.vanbar.com.au/catalogue/product.php?id=126010

Multiply that by four to get the same amount of film, you end up purchasing 100 sheets for $716.28 AUD; their price does include the 10% GST component, but...........................

Forgetting about delivery costs and the 10% GST inclusion of the locally sourced product, the difference is unbelievably huge.

I can tell you that even if I take the train and tram to Vanbar to save on delivery costs, I fail to see where I can have an approximate savings of $503.69 AUD by shopping locally.

Allowing for the fact that we are a smaller market and there will be some economies of scale, I firmly believe we are being taken for a ride by the Australian distributor and their retailers in this country.

Mick.

PS: if you purchase 3 x 100 sheet boxes from Badger, that is the best bang for your buck with regard to postage from the USA.
Thats a good deal Mick havent heard of Badger before. The best I have seen locally for hp5 4x5 is $77 for a box of 25. Plus $7 postage and they will combine postage. You can get foma film for less than $50 a box.
Vanbar has some hard to get chemistry at resonable prices, just their postage kills the deal. Never bought film from them. Most basic chemistry and 35 and 120 film can be had here for similar to overseas......except of coarse Badger.
 

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Blundies are bewt, the eponymous Aussie pull-ons!
I'm wearing them now under my dressing gown because my slippers were accidentally left out in the rain last night...:tongue:
Ugg boots are now available in GoreTex versions but really, they never have been high on the fashionista bucket list, more for the bogans of the outlying suburbs, certainly not for Poshville where we are...

Very popular with yuppies and hipsters in Canada FWIW. They set up shop in one of Vancouver's trendiest areas a few years ago, and have similar status in Toronto.
That and aussies working on sites or studying on temporary visas.
 

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Well I don't really know what you are purchasing, but in my case with 4x5" sheet film, I would be struggling to find anywhere in the world more expensive than what is available in Australia.

For HP5+ 4x5" sheet film, I can purchase 100 sheets from Badger Graphics in the USA for $193.26 AUD at today's conversion rate. Including GST it comes to $212.59 AUD
http://www.badgergraphic.com/openca...oduct/product&path=235_178_253&product_id=626

In Australia with their current 5% discount, Vanbar have HP5+ in 25 sheet boxes for $179.07 AUD
https://www.vanbar.com.au/catalogue/product.php?id=126010

Multiply that by four to get the same amount of film, you end up purchasing 100 sheets for $716.28 AUD; their price does include the 10% GST component, but...........................

Forgetting about delivery costs and the 10% GST inclusion of the locally sourced product, the difference is unbelievably huge.

I can tell you that even if I take the train and tram to Vanbar to save on delivery costs, I fail to see where I can have an approximate savings of $503.69 AUD by shopping locally.

Allowing for the fact that we are a smaller market and there will be some economies of scale, I firmly believe we are being taken for a ride by the Australian distributor and their retailers in this country.

Mick.

PS: if you purchase 3 x 100 sheet boxes from Badger, that is the best bang for your buck with regard to postage from the USA.
It depends on the product, yesterday I drove down to Vanbars to get a box of ilford RC paper. Taking into account the exchange rate and shipping the price between B&H and Vanbar was negligible and if B&H are now tacking GST on then Vanbar would be quite a bit cheaper.
 

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I was going to buy a couple of bulk rolls of Kentmere 400 from B&H & when I looked at the grand total I realised I would be paying about $105 AUD per roll. I can get HP5 locally for about the same price. Realistically it's mostly due to the weak AUD rather than B&H adding GST, but this is the first time in years that it hasn't been significantly cheaper to buy from OS. I will continue to monitor other products & take Mick's point on sheet film.
 

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It does the same as it does in the UK, it adds the GST in the same way as your country adds VAT.

Mick.
Sorry Mick I expressed my question poorly. I meant what now you have to add GST to the bill for imported film what is the import price of Kodak Portra? I note that the consensus seems to be that Oz prices are high already and I just wondered what increase GST makes. Does it for instance mean that importing is no longer worthwhile or at least become much more of a marginal difference between Oz purchased Portra and personal import?


Thanks

pentaxuser
 
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