schyter
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even if it were an unseemly thing, can you explain what Umut?I think we should introduce schyter to Umut![]()

I do not know what it means... sorry

I like your signature ... I think it's topic !!! wow!!

even if it were an unseemly thing, can you explain what Umut?I think we should introduce schyter to Umut![]()



even if it were an unseemly thing, can you explain what Umut?
I do not know what it means... sorry![]()
Your method looks great schyter, I hadn't realised the SG data was so readily available from the manufacturer. You have definitely won me over. I will standardise my dev process around your method. I also like your idea of using any old plastic water bottle, cutting off the neck and using it as a throw away mixing vessel.
Great information in any case and thanks for the eBay link.


Another aspect that might be interesting, is that, occasionally monitoring the specific gravity of the developer (even diluted) could reasonably assess if the chemical is exhausted or still active. Ilford fact shows the specific weight even for dilutions. I think it is an aspect not to be underestimated.

I also like your idea of using any old plastic water bottle, cutting off the neck and using it as a throw away mixing vessel.
Oh great, just what our land fills need, more plastic that takes eons to deteriorate.
I'll opt for cleaning out my glass and recycling everything else.

many thanks to all ! ;/)
Paul > if you use a plastic bottle for water, you can just throw it in the waste basket. I want to clarify that it is a proposed method to a guy who develops the first time, with a few budget.
Post #7 from the OP. Hmm.... looks like you are promoting waste to me.

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Let's say that the kit becomes extremely cheap. Who does not possess in the home a digital scale from 1 gram??
With what you weigh the flour, yeast, etc etc when preparing the dough for the pizza?![]()
Here in New World America scales for home baking have only recently become popular. Most baking recipes have been volumetric. More and more we are seeing recipes with both vulumetric and weight measures.
Decent digital kitchen scales are easily available at very reasonable prices.


after that we discovered you (Christopher Columbus 1.492), now we convey you even scales for food !!! 
Is amusing to note that my AP tank requires 600ml developing for one 120 roll.using Rodinal/APH09/Fomadon R09 (all with SG 1.36!!) in a dilution of 1 + 50
Good morning everyone, (sorry for my english...)
in an Italian forum I have been ridiculed by many users, because I proposed to a guy who was starting for the first time to develop black and white, not to buy jugs, syringes and graduated cylinders.
Could replace this with a simple precision balance (0,1gr ebay 10$); the advantage of this solution, are in my opinion, in order of importance :
>> economic savings >> no annoying washing, with the risk of breakage >> repeatability accuracy and higher precision.
The important thing is to know the specific gravity of the chemical, but practically all the manufacturers on the report in datasheets or MSD.
Here's an example .
APH09 Adox (Rodinal) 1 +50 (specific gravity 1.36 )
Tank AP 590ml necessary for one 120 roll
590ml / 1 +50 = 11.57 ml X 1.36 (SG) = 15.7grams APH09
11.57ml X 50 = 578,5ml === 578.5grams of distilled water
15.7gr APH09 + 578.5gr of distilled water = 594.2grams of developer!
How to >> put an empty bottle on the balance and tare to zero.
Put 15.7 grams of APH09 and tare to zero.
Put 578.5 grams of distilled water
Things become even more important when you are using multiple solutions (A+B+C)... How many cylinders, jugs, and syringes avoid washing?
1> I think I have a good precision .
2> I think I have a good repeatability.
3> I do not have to wash superfluous.
4> I saved money without compromising accuracy.
because this system has created a cruel irony and derision ???
I've made mistakes ???
Many thanks at all !! Luigi ;/)
Which scale do you use? I need to see for myself how accurate that scale is. I go for complexity all the math and stuff but I think your method isn't very accurate due to ability of getting a good scale.
Your scale has a resolution of 0.1 g but I doubt that it's even accurate to a few grams. Precision scales are not cheap. The analytical balance you mentioned in the lab would cost many thousands of dollars.

I think it is irrelevant in this case, or rather, negligible, compared with an erratic reading of the graduated cylinder and influenced by the ambient temperature. (imho)One problem of weighing for the volume is that the volume of chemicals containing water varies with the temperature and the ionization constant.
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