Want to Buy WB: UV filter for Zeiss Ikonta III

[JWMster]

Looking for a UV filter for the Zeiss Ikonta III. Part # 353, size is 35.5mm, screwing ON to the outside of the 32mm lens. My searches come up empty. If you don't have one, but know how to spec it out on ebay, that's wonderful, too. Appreciate the help. THanks!

 

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[bunip]

would you consider slip-on ones?

 

[macfred]

Go for Carl Zeiss S35.5 filters or for Zeiss Ikon 353 S35.5 filters (you will find them definitely on ebay) - those filters for both -the Tessars and Novars of the Ikontas- are 35.5mm inner diameter, and they screwed onto the outside of the lens.
I found mine at ebay.de - I have a Super Ikona III 531/16 with Novar lens. Size for slip-on filters -and hoods- is 32mm (some say those 32mm slip-on filters will cause vignetting - I never tried them.

 

[macfred]

for example :

https://www.ebay.de/itm/Zeiss-Ikon-...308017?hash=item2a2d47d231:g:xcIAAMXQTT9RoyjZ

https://www.ebay.de/i/362266839175?ul_noapp=true

https://www.ebay.de/itm/Carl-Zeiss-blue-blau-Filter-353-S35-5-35-5mm-Icolor-B-2-5X/382431644325?_trkparms=aid=222007&algo=SIM.MBE&ao=1&asc=20160908110712&meid=c4663f3cbdd5453db2fa5ad0e394d962&pid=100677&rk=3&rkt=6&sd=362266839175&itm=382431644325&_trksid=p2385738.c100677.m4598

https://www.ebay.de/itm/ZEISS-IKON-...745205?hash=item23132063f5:g:UiEAAMXQy7hRYrrF

there will be more ...

 

[E. von Hoegh]

Go for Carl Zeiss S35.5 filters or for Zeiss Ikon 353 S35.5 filters (you will find them definitely on ebay) - those filters for both -the Tessars and Novars of the Ikontas- are 35.5mm inner diameter, and they screwed onto the outside of the lens.
I found mine at ebay.de - I have a Super Ikona III 531/16 with Novar lens. Size for slip-on filters -and hoods- is 32mm (some say those 32mm slip-on filters will cause vignetting - I never tried them.

You have to love Zeiss. With my Contax II came two filters, light and medium yellow, in neat clamshell Baekelite cases 42mm slip-on for the Sonnar. On the very outside of the glass is the Zeiss-Ikon doublet logo.

 

[JWMster]

macfred: Thanks for your help. I have found a lens hood that's the 1111 and fits over a yellow filter like the ones you linked for green and blue. Sadly, a red filter that came from the same source as the yellow filter does not work. Very close, but I think the threads are wrong. So I've also come up empty on UV filters so far and thought to check here.
my III has the Novar lens. So far the only 35.5mm UV I've seen isn't a Zeiss, and might not actually screw ON as opposed to in. This is a VERY handy camera so far in my testing of it. While I'll admit the resolution isn't as fine as a 80MM Rollei 2.8 PQ (for the 6008 Integral) it is pretty doggone good.One thing I do notice is that the edges of the frames are all soft, and there is a very tiny bit of vignetting at the edges, too. I tend to imagine this is the norm. Is that so?

E: Yes, Zeiss... it's a love affair. I know some love their Summilux and Summicrons, Noctilux and so on, but I'll take a Zeiss lens any day. THanks for the encouragement!

bunnip: Yes, I would, but would like to have a filter that works with the lens hood more. Thanks! but truth is... there aren't a lot of those either. Many 32mm filters aren't thin enough to fit into the slot on the camera.

 

[E. von Hoegh]

macfred: Thanks for your help. I have found a lens hood that's the 1111 and fits over a yellow filter like the ones you linked for green and blue. Sadly, a red filter that came from the same source as the yellow filter does not work. Very close, but I think the threads are wrong. So I've also come up empty on UV filters so far and thought to check here.
my III has the Novar lens. So far the only 35.5mm UV I've seen isn't a Zeiss, and might not actually screw ON as opposed to in. This is a VERY handy camera so far in my testing of it. While I'll admit the resolution isn't as fine as a 80MM Rollei 2.8 PQ (for the 6008 Integral) it is pretty doggone good.One thing I do notice is that the edges of the frames are all soft, and there is a very tiny bit of vignetting at the edges, too. I tend to imagine this is the norm. Is that so?

E: Yes, Zeiss... it's a love affair. I know some love their Summilux and Summicrons, Noctilux and so on, but I'll take a Zeiss lens any day. THanks for the encouragement!

bunnip: Yes, I would, but would like to have a filter that works with the lens hood more. Thanks! but truth is... there aren't a lot of those either. Many 32mm filters aren't thin enough to fit into the slot on the camera.

I have a 1946 Summitar, and I've had both R and M Summicrons, two Summarits; I prefer the Summitar to any of the aformentioned 50s. The Sonnar 5cm/f:2, the prewar uncoated collapsible, is another favorite - it's aptly named.

 

[bunip]

Many 32mm filters aren't thin enough to fit into the slot on the camera.

It's not a matter of thickness, in the slip-in slot you can see 3 screws that prevent the filter to slip in unless you have the right filter with 3 holes corresponding to the 3 screws. You can also take a common slip-on filter and file just the 3 parts according to screws positions. This will allow you to use any slip-on filter if adapted.

 

[macfred]

You have to love Zeiss ...

I do !
A quick shot of my Zeiss Ikont AG Stuttgart filters -
from left to right : Yellow-Green, Orange, UV and Light Yellow filters. In the back a Kenko 32mm slip-in hood that fits the filters.

Please notice: The box that came with the UV filter is from a S40.5 Zeiss Ikon filter - I'm still looking for the original box.
Luxury problems ...

 

[macfred]

My Super Ikonta III 531/16 :

 

[macfred]

... as far as I can see no vignetting with the Kenko hood :

An der Emscher by Andreas, on Flickr

 

[GRHazelton]

Touch base with Tim at filterfind.net. He found a Series adapter for my Zeiss Contessa on which the f 2.8 Tessar also has outside threads. What were they thinking??

 

[JWMster]

GR: Thanks! Will do. Yes... what WERE they thinking? "We are very clever Germans, and we have a way of doing this filter thing no one else will even imagine....yes... and it will work amazingly.... and we don't mind if it annoys you. You know in your head... we're right and all the others are wrong. Our way... is the only way and better."
And it does. They were right it is amazing and clever and better.... and annoys me. And all the other solutions ... are just more available. The cleverness in the Ikonta is classic and better in many ways... like a Rollei, and similarly maddening at the same time. "We want you to filter your images only with filters we have tested. Otherwise who knows what might happen? The results could just be terrible, and we would not want you to blame our camera for a poor result when in fact we know it's the filter that wrecked things! And so we are trying only to protect aspiring photographers from potential mistakes." Yes... probably true.

 

[GRHazelton]

Speaking of German engineering, the lovely Voigtlander Vitessa L has what amounts to a sort of interrupted coarse pitch thread on the inside of its lens. It's sort of like a bayonet mount, roughly a quarter turn and the filter or hood is on or off. While this makes mounting filters very quick, it means that other than a slip-on Series adapter NOTHING else will fit! I did manage by long and arduous searching eventually score the dedicated lens hood and three filters. They're all made of that wonder material, Unobtainium!

 

[E. von Hoegh]

GR: Thanks! Will do. Yes... what WERE they thinking? "We are very clever Germans, and we have a way of doing this filter thing no one else will even imagine....yes... and it will work amazingly.... and we don't mind if it annoys you. You know in your head... we're right and all the others are wrong. Our way... is the only way and better."
And it does. They were right it is amazing and clever and better.... and annoys me. And all the other solutions ... are just more available. The cleverness in the Ikonta is classic and better in many ways... like a Rollei, and similarly maddening at the same time. "We want you to filter your images only with filters we have tested. Otherwise who knows what might happen? The results could just be terrible, and we would not want you to blame our camera for a poor result when in fact we know it's the filter that wrecked things! And so we are trying only to protect aspiring photographers from potential mistakes." Yes... probably true.

You need a prewar Contax.

 

[JWMster]

macfred: Vignetting is on the edges. Output of scanned negatives looks like this on my camera (see link: http://kohlweb.com/essays/2016/05/zeiss-super-ikonta-iii/ ). EXACTLY like the photos at the bottom of the page. Can I crop that out? Of course. But it's still there in the original.

 

[hacked - darinwc]

Some of the vignetting may be from the inside of the bellows. Check that they are not bowed inward at all.