Andy,
You would be looking for trouble here just talking about stand development, but you're going to “extremes” Andy. This is surely going to stir up some interest, one way or the other. For some films, I like stand or semi-stand. One in particular is Fuji Acros in Rodinal 1:100 for 60 min..
I know, right??!! There are some here who absolutely loathe stand development. Knickers in a twist or what?? If used carefully, smart, and at the right moments/situations, it can deliver amazing results. Personally, I will never use such an extreme approach, as regular semi-stand can deliver similar if not same, result. For a future test, I want to see at what point the film exhausts itself.
Andy,
You would be looking for trouble here just talking about stand development, but you're going to “extremes” Andy. This is surely going to stir up some interest, one way or the other. For some films, I like stand or semi-stand. One in particular is Fuji Acros in Rodinal 1:100 for 60 min..
I did this about a year ago (overnight stand), though I did not put it in the fridge. I suspect cooling the developer like this actually reduces its activity. In any case, I got much the same results you did and saw nothing compelling beyond what I already get with semistand and EMA.
The story goes that old photo shops did this with D-23 back in the day. All the film got hung and dunked a few times and left hanging in open tanks. Then they were dunked again at the end of the day to stand overnight. This method allowed for best possible shadow speed and highlight control across the many different emulsions and variations in exposure found in volume film development like this.
I've been using semistand and EMA for around 3-ish years now after over 40 years of conventional development. It is my consistent experience that the people who mostly loudly object to it have either never taken the time to really master it, or haven't tried it at all. It's an arrow in quiver of technique, and very useful when it's appropriate.
My notes here if anyone wants to try it themselves:
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What is your usual Pcat dilution when doing (semi)stand or EMA?
5ml of both stock A and B into 1200ml water for both stand/semi-stand. I use 1200ml because that is what it takes to fill one 8x10 BTZS tube right to the brim.
I have a video on my channel where I'm farting around with stand/semi-stand/EMA, and 4x5 HP5.
Did you have to take any precautions against thermal shock to the film for the stop/fix? A refrigerator is usually around 4 deg. C.
Did you have to take any precautions against thermal shock to the film for the stop/fix? A refrigerator is usually around 4 deg. C.
None whatsoever. I wasn't so worried about any reticulation, as I've tried to do that to film in the past and found it quite difficult to do with modern films. Going from about 20C to the fridge temperature was slow and gradual. My stop and fix was about 20C.
I'm too tired for stand development...I use sit-down development.
Amazing and crazy. I love it! I was contemplating this last night, only I was thinking, extremely dilute developer, XTOL 1+20, in a refrigerator, with a Jobo Silverbase.![]()
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Andy, I love your videos and Bold sense of adventure!
Best Regards Mike
I was watching this about 30 minutes ago and then noticed it here. Results are awesome. I played around with stand development four years ago but not to that extreme. Great video!
Yeah I was thinking about temperature shock also. Good to know that it isn't worrisome. I remember when I developed my first roll, 1992, the class was told not to stray too much in temperature or you would reticulate/crack the film. To this day I still have that mantra of deviating temperatures imprinted into me to where if I see the thermometer going to 72F I get kind of antsy, lol. Still need to keep telling myself that the other chemicals aren't as critical and that the materials can take a little bit of a poke in temperature.
The wheels are now turning in my head a little. Rodinal stand development in the fridge, hmmmmmm. What about the freezer? Rodinal ice cubes.
I have also used this technique for really old films. The only one that gave me fits was 2x3 Plus-X sheet film that streaked like crazy no matter how I suspended it in Pyrocat-HD. The solution was to switch to D-23. See:
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