Warm Tone Papers

[chrisf]

Hi,

I contact print 5x7 on Azo, however I have some 4x5 negs that fit grade 3 Azo and I'm looking to enlarge these on a warm paper; think ivory or cream color when I say warm. I'm not looking for anything that leans to the red or brown. I use amidol for my developer and I don't see changing that. I'm looking for some ideas on paper and toner that I could experiment with to see if I can get the look I'm after.

thanks, chris

 

[Rob Archer]

I really like Kentmere Fineprint Warmtone FB. It has a very warm base but the emulsion is very susceptible to different developers. I don't know what it would be like in amidol, but I use Fotospeed WT10 warmtone dev at 1:19 - the image colour is remeniscent of very old Agfa record rapid. Another one to try is Kentmere Kentona which also responds very well to most toners.

Rob

 

[MarkL]

Forte Fortezo is warm.

 

[JBrunner]

JandC Polywarmtone comes out (of 130) with no warmth at all, and then I warm to taste with KRST. A little time in the toner- slight warmth- longer -warmer and finally towards red. Pull it when you like it.

 

[JLP]

Rob already mentioned the Kentmere papers and i can second that, the Kentona has a warm creamy base and looks fine in Dektol, tone easy in KRST 1/15 for good control. No experience with Amidol.

 

[Ole]

My personal preference is for Fortezo and the Bergger CB papers. For even more warmth I tone them in fairly strong Viradon until they look right, then drop them in a sodium sulfite "Viradon-stop bath".

 

[yehuda]

Ilford FBW + LPD 1:2

Hi all, I find Ilford FBW developed in LPD 1:2 to give a nice warm tone to the base and the print "color".

Yehuda

 

[ongarine]

My beloved warm tone papers are:
Fomatone 131 MG baryt developed in ID78 or for astounding results in BJ Warm tone pyro developer (you will find it in APUG formulas, thanks to Tom Hoskinson).
Fortezo with D55 developer
Efke Emaks with PPPD (find the formula in APUG)

 

[Bob F.]

Ilford MGIV-WT has an off-white base. Not as creamy as the Kentmere, but the Kentmere Fineprint VC Warm is only available in a semi-matt finish (which I do like though). Both are responsive to different developers; I have used Ansco 130, Neutol WA and Ilford Warmtone developers with pleasant results from both papers. Sorry: I've never tried an amidol developer.

Good luck, Bob.

 

[juan]

I've been using Polywarmtone (JandC/Forte) in very dilute Dassonville D-3. I don't know if I like it better than amidol, but it's certainly different.
juan

 

[fschifano]

Forte Polywarmtone in Dektol 1+3 looks pretty good to me.

 

[MMfoto]

I'll second the Bergger CB papers if you are looking for cream to ivory.

 

[ineffablething]

Depends..If you like glossy surface and ivory base, I'd go with the Fomatone MG131. If you like glossy and a clean white base, it's hard to beat the Bergger. Ivory base and a matte surface, Bergger wins.

 

[vet173]

Depends..If you like glossy surface and ivory base, I'd go with the Fomatone MG131. If you like glossy and a clean white base, it's hard to beat the Bergger. Ivory base and a matte surface, Bergger wins.

I second the recommendation of Formatone 131. I was making some prints on Kentmere fineprint and needed some more paper but, they didn't have any. I tried the formatone and picked up noticeable detail and more separation in the highlights with the same recipe of exposure, shifting apature for paper speed difference. I found it to be about a half stop faster than forte, which is to say slow. I'm puttin the word out now, your going to hear more about this paper.

 

[chrisf]

Thanks for all the suggestions. I think I'll try a couple of these and see how they look and which one gives me the look I'm after.

 

[Rolleiflexible]

JandC Polywarmtone comes out (of 130) with no warmth at all, and then I warm to taste with KRST. A little time in the toner- slight warmth- longer -warmer and finally towards red. Pull it when you like it.

Jason, greetings. What dilution of KRST do you use to warm up JandC PWT? I develop with LPD and would like a warmer tone. And what time ranges work for you before redness sets in? Sanders.

 

[JBrunner]

Jason, greetings. What dilution of KRST do you use to warm up JandC PWT? I develop with LPD and would like a warmer tone. And what time ranges work for you before redness sets in? Sanders.

Hi Sanders,

Sorry, I didn't see your post till now.
KRST 1:9 or so, and I pull it when it looks good, about 5 to 9 minutes depending on the print. It needs to go right in the wash to stop the toning.

J

 

[chrisf]

I tried two Forte papers; Polywarm Art and Poly WT Plus. One gloss and one flat. I toned them in KRST one capful (17 ml) in a liter of water for ten minutes. I like the results with the gloss paper, more pleasing to my taste for this particular subject matter, nieces and nephews.