Warm Tone Paper

Ian Grant said:

You're right, I meant Fomatone 131, MG Classic.

Ian

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Is that really still the case? I have both papers at home and just compared dry prints. The base looks petty similar to me.

I can't comment Dan, I used one box of Fomatone MG Classic 111. Sometimes bases change, they did with Ilford MG Warmtone a few years ago when the creamier base went out of production.

Ian

Ian Grant said:

I can't comment Dan, I used one box of Fomatone MG Classic 111. Sometimes bases change, they did with Ilford MG Warmtone a few years ago when the creamier base went out of production.

Ian

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I've seen the colour you describe happen on Fomabrom & found it was from slightly insufficient fixation - it's ridiculously slow in rapid fix (really needs 3 mins) compared to Ilford's minute. Even so, the base appears a hint warmer than Ilford's (probably Ilford locking in the brighteners in the emulsion/ supercoat rather better - I recall seeing in some document or other that this was an innovation in the reformulated Galerie in the early 90's).

Ian Grant said:

I can't comment Dan, I used one box of Fomatone MG Classic 111. Sometimes bases change, they did with Ilford MG Warmtone a few years ago when the creamier base went out of production.

Ian

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when did the Ilford base change? I have some older MG Warmtone fiber paper that has a pretty creamy base.

Lachlan Young said:

I've seen the colour you describe happen on Fomabrom & found it was from slightly insufficient fixation - it's ridiculously slow in rapid fix

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I totally agree. I use a 2 bath fix routine and normally I can turn on the lights when the print is about done in the first bath. But with fomatone you really need to fix in complete darkness or you will get a slightly yellowish base.

I've thought about using this for artistic purposes, but the effect is not repeatable enough.

ericdan said:

when did the Ilford base change? I have some older MG Warmtone fiber paper that has a pretty creamy base.

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I don't know the exact date but more than a decade ago, We were given a sample pack on an Ilford factory visit in 2008 or 9 and the base had changed by then because their paper supplier no longer made the creamier base.

Ian