Voigtlander Avus (edit: actually Baby Bergheil) 4.5x6cm: film holder?

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This one? http://camera-wiki.org/wiki/Plate_Tenax
because the other "Goerz Tenax" I found is only 6x9 and above.
 

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This one? http://camera-wiki.org/wiki/Plate_Tenax
because the other "Goerz Tenax" I found is only 6x9 and above.
It looks like the one called 'Plate Tenax'. The front looks sort of like the one called 'Vest Pocket Tenax', with a finder and the aperture and shutter dials on the right as you look at the camera. The focus dial is centered on the top though The front says 'Tenax' on one line, and 'C.P. Goerz Berlin' underneath. It has an F 4.5 75mm Dogmar lens, and a shutter that still sounds OK, from 1 sec to 1/200. I can try and do some pictures, if there is any interest. I have 3 double plate holders for it, and a filmpack holder, all of which also say 'C.P. Goerz'. I've never taken any pictures with it, we got it via my wife's grandfather who used it a lot.
 

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Here are two pictures of the camera, plus 2 of the plate holder. It is hinged, and once open, the black plate holder part is also hinged, so a plate can be loaded on each side.
 

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It is hinged, and once open, the black plate holder part is also hinged, so a plate can be loaded on each side.
Is there a way to load sheet film into this holder? Maybe a piece of film cut from type 120 roll and attached to a thin plate for support?
 

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I would guess that the 'glass plate' would be very thin, 1-2 mm, judging by the lip on the black holder. There is another lip on the shiny part of the holder that would hold the glass plate (or plate plus film) in place. The plates don't seem to be spring loaded like on the 9 x 12 plate holders I have, so there has to be something that holds them in place.

Maybe I should try this if I ever get the time. And something to use as the 'plate'. A sheet of aluminum? Maybe cut down sheet film might be stiffer (4 from a 9 x 12 sheet). I imagine I could put the 4.5 x 6 pieces of film in a 120 or 127 film reel for development.....
 

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I used pieces of aluminium plate and acrylic salvaged from CD cases in my 9x12 folder before I found proper film sheaths. Sheet film was attached to the plate using syrup/starch or other water soluble "glue". I am not sure if the piece of film is long enough for the reel but you can always use the "taco" method.
 

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What lens does the camera have?

The 4,5x6 format was never as popular as 6,5x9 and 9x12 for plate cameras, so these cameras are more rare, so if you start using it please share your results!
 
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Update: I have received the 3D printed backs from the manufacturer, and they fit perfectly. A little too perfectly even, as I had a little trouble sliding it back out of the camera.

https://i.postimg.cc/XJD5m0J3/IMG-20250316-102854.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/yxgRzrgR/IMG-20250316-102914.jpg




The .stl files are exactly the ones attached earlier in this thread (the mk3 version). It was resin printed in black opaque resin, and surface finished with black satin paint. The cost was $42 for 5 pairs holder+back cover.
 

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That looks nice.

Is the name of the lens a secret?
 

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Very happy you were able to make it work! Looking forward to your images.
 

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as posted earlier

check this thread about plate holders and film holders for them...

 
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