Yes.The greater question, though, is are we allowed to use/publish/profit from said images without a model release?
The greater question, though, is are we allowed to use/publish/profit from said images without a model release?
Yes, she's no Bruce Gilden.
also being a socialist she had more empathy to the less well off.
On the street, in public- no, you have no privacy right. Because you're in public! The laws are fairly clear on this; read through some of the information al asmp.org to find out how things actually work with respect to copyright, privacy, etc.
The greater question, though, is are we allowed to use/publish/profit from said images without a model release?
These images by Vivian Maier are brilliant:- Have you ever seen a collection of images better than this?
She was a once in a lifetime talent without a doubt.
Hear Hear..!!
I would donate 100 bux to facilitate a statue of her, somewhere in............. did she shoot mostly in Chicago.?
If i had her talent, i would throw my talent away
The trouble is that mostly they were assigned to photograph the kitchen.The other major factor relates to her gender - how many female street photographers from her era can you think of?
That and her relative isolation from artistic communities.
An assumption perhaps?
He who controls the copyright controls the narrative.
But before Maloof gained control of the copyright with a partnership with the state there was a BBC documentary that had a bit of a different story. Seemed to paint her as a very intelligent, self determined woman with interviews with a lot of people who new her. She spent a lot of her early years in France, her early photography was of around the French village where she lived, she had connections with local photography groups and political groups. Its France people do that. She also travelled extensively through Asia and Europe after her mother died in the late fifties.
That documentary is buried now from legal threats and probably never again see the light of day. Pity because it was very interesting and made way better sense than the nimble minded slightly crazy nanny story.
It was amusing in the BBC documentary when they interviewed the people who actually bought up her lockers and bundled up the contents to sell to Maloof and others. They were asked how much they made and they said $1600 and looked like weren't we the most stupidest people.
Also remember she was still alive when this was happening, was around 80 still living independently, she meticulously kept all her documents and records, made notes about everything, made moving film recordings and audio recordings and yet we are told no one tried to contact her while she was alive. Two years she lived for after her lockers were sold off, no one tried to track her down. Lived continuously in the same neighbourhood for her retired life, film was taken to the same places for processing, lots of people new of her. Blind Freddie would be able to find her.....then a few months after she slipped and bumped her head and died soon after, someone decided to look for her.....
Hear Hear..!!
I would donate 100 bux to facilitate a statue of her, somewhere in............. did she shoot mostly in Chicago.?
If i had her talent, i would throw my talent away
Vivian , printed herself and belonged to a camera club of other enthusiasts. She traveled more extensively than most of us. She built a relationship with a french printer and together they produced over 5000 small fibre prints that are quite lovely.( these images are more landscape travel orientated) A significant portion of them were donated by John Maloof to an organization in Chicago Area, but there are still over 3000 prints in private hands.
All of the negatives I have seen are from Chicago, but I have seen the small prints.
He who controls the copyright controls the narrative.
But before Maloof gained control of the copyright with a partnership with the state there was a BBC documentary that had a bit of a different story. Seemed to paint her as a very intelligent, self determined woman with interviews with a lot of people who new her. She spent a lot of her early years in France, her early photography was of around the French village where she lived, she had connections with local photography groups and political groups. Its France people do that. She also travelled extensively through Asia and Europe after her mother died in the late fifties.
That documentary is buried now from legal threats and probably never again see the light of day. Pity because it was very interesting and made way better sense than the nimble minded slightly crazy nanny story.
It was amusing in the BBC documentary when they interviewed the people who actually bought up her lockers and bundled up the contents to sell to Maloof and others. They were asked how much they made and they said $1600 and looked like weren't we the most stupidest people.
Also remember she was still alive when this was happening, was around 80 still living independently, she meticulously kept all her documents and records, made notes about everything, made moving film recordings and audio recordings and yet we are told no one tried to contact her while she was alive. Two years she lived for after her lockers were sold off, no one tried to track her down. Lived continuously in the same neighbourhood for her retired life, film was taken to the same places for processing, lots of people new of her. Blind Freddie would be able to find her.....then a few months after she slipped and bumped her head and died soon after, someone decided to look for her.....
Yes - this all is quite contrary to everything I knew - that is thought I knew, read, was told, about her.
Now she's even more of a puzzle than before.
O.K. then: Just who was Vivian Maier
That is interesting.
I knew she had done some printing of her stuff while in France, but i had no idea the number was that large..!!!
How long was she there.?
How long would it take to generate 5 Thousand Prints.?
I do not know exactly how long she was there, she had this printer in France do the printing and she approved, they are very small prints quite delicate and compelling. These prints were made over years I believe.
I am not sure.
I suppose that she Is/Was as human, interesting, failed, blessed, cursed, loving, lost as any of us
I had never heard any of this!He who controls the copyright controls the narrative.
But before Maloof gained control of the copyright with a partnership with the state there was a BBC documentary that had a bit of a different story. Seemed to paint her as a very intelligent, self determined woman with interviews with a lot of people who new her. She spent a lot of her early years in France, her early photography was of around the French village where she lived, she had connections with local photography groups and political groups. Its France people do that. She also travelled extensively through Asia and Europe after her mother died in the late fifties.
That documentary is buried now from legal threats and probably never again see the light of day. Pity because it was very interesting and made way better sense than the nimble minded slightly crazy nanny story.
It was amusing in the BBC documentary when they interviewed the people who actually bought up her lockers and bundled up the contents to sell to Maloof and others. They were asked how much they made and they said $1600 and looked like weren't we the most stupidest people.
Also remember she was still alive when this was happening, was around 80 still living independently, she meticulously kept all her documents and records, made notes about everything, made moving film recordings and audio recordings and yet we are told no one tried to contact her while she was alive. Two years she lived for after her lockers were sold off, no one tried to track her down. Lived continuously in the same neighbourhood for her retired life, film was taken to the same places for processing, lots of people new of her. Blind Freddie would be able to find her.....then a few months after she slipped and bumped her head and died soon after, someone decided to look for her.....
Vivian , printed herself and belonged to a camera club of other enthusiasts. She traveled more extensively than most of us. She built a relationship with a french printer and together they produced over 5000 small fibre prints that are quite lovely.( these images are more landscape travel orientated) A significant portion of them were donated by John Maloof to an organization in Chicago Area, but there are still over 3000 prints in private hands.
All of the negatives I have seen are from Chicago, but I have seen the small prints.
I think she was a lot like many people we know , photography can get under your skin and you pursue it even when it financially does not make sense. I have been dragging darkroom equipment around with me from building to building for over 40 years, I have made many darkrooms and I find it my safe zone , I do not own a suit and probably never will get one , unless I win the Order of Canada then I would rent one for the day to hang out with the mucky muck elites of Canada. I personally know many photographers that walk a tough road to make their images and would not have it any other way. I believe Vivian was like this and I would have liked to have met her.
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