Vivian Maier ain't naive

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She also did not practice bracketing , but rather composed took the image and then moved on.
 

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She obviously knew she was an artist. ... She shot Leicas .

I do not understand this relation. Was the Leica an artists' camera? Here in Germany it had been a workhorse camera since the late 30s.
 

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She had a thing for German cameras.

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Thanks for introducing me to that website, which I hadn't heard of. I was in Manhattan last week to see art but the Maier/Burtynski show at Greenberg didn't make the cut, though I like both very much. I have no doubts that Maier knew how good she was.

Not meaning to OT your thread but I checked the other Best Of 2018 hilights on that page and didn't find much to enjoy there aside from Vivian, but wow Jean-Luc Leroy-Rojek is sharing a special gift with the world. If photography is about access, well hot damn he won the access lottery and isn't letting it go to waste. A beautiful project.

https://loeildelaphotographie.com/en/jean-luc-leroy-rojek-neighbors-jj/
 

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She was a snapshot shooter. Nostalgia is what made her popular now...and lots of shadow selfies.

Ouch. There is always one.

The website text is OTT and flowery and pretentious. I'm not convinced she was interested in how 'good' she was. She maybe just enjoyed taking photos, maybe as a cathartic process. She certainly had a wonderful eye, was aware of the human condition and evidently got through many pairs of good shoes ..... Not all "art" has to be staged and artsy: sometimes the capturing of a moment in the right way is enough. It is certainly enough for me and many others.

Thank goodness her work was saved for posterity
 

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She was a snapshot shooter. Nostalgia is what made her popular now...and lots of shadow selfies.

Hmm...

Almost everyone are snapshot shooters but some apply technique far better than others and there by know what to get from what they see.

On streets the anticipation predominates everything and in this regard its the self reflection done almost right.

Maier is fresh and an unchanged postal code to street photography.
 

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She was a snapshot shooter. Nostalgia is what made her popular now...

Respectfully disagree. A lot of people made snapshots in her day and those photos are totally forgettable. Her work is valuable not because certain art directors say it is, but because so many people, photo enthusiasts included, see inherent value in her work.
 

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Ahhh the ever classic Leica BS.

It basically goes like this: the amateur buys a leica and starts thinking he’s a legend for ages.

So vivian maier had a Leica, eh? Was she also hooked on bokeh?
 

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I personally reluctant to learn or understand the local kulture, since there is an angst of loosing the freshness in unknown.

An unknown chaos cloud is always interesting to see the beauty even from a mundane subjects.
 

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Ahhh the ever classic Leica BS.

It basically goes like this: the amateur buys a leica and starts thinking he’s a legend for ages.

So vivian maier had a Leica, eh? Was she also hooked on bokeh?
Most of the famous people who used Leica "in the day" used DOF as a creative tool rather than today's cliche razor thin DOF.

To use such a broad brush stroke when describing current Leica users only goes to show your individual bias more than anything else. May I suggest you dismount from your high horse :wink:
 

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Most of the famous people who used Leica "in the day" used DOF as a creative tool rather than today's cliche razor thin DOF.

To use such a broad brush stroke when describing current Leica users only goes to show your individual bias more than anything else. May I suggest you dismount from your high horse :wink:

No. I’ve seen too much already.
 

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Why does taking selfies makes you an artist? There a sways of people who seem to spend a lot of time taking pictures of themselves.
I would of thought you would of had to study art to become an artist and have peers confirm . Seems to be a case of I believe for there for I am.
Think Vivian brings hope to many that someone will one day discover there vault photographs and be acclaimed if not in there life time, afterwards.
 

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Why does taking selfies makes you an artist? There a sways of people who seem to spend a lot of time taking pictures of themselves.
I would of thought you would of had to study art to become an artist and have peers confirm . Seems to be a case of I believe for there for I am.
Think Vivian brings hope to many that someone will one day discover there vault photographs and be acclaimed if not in there life time, afterwards.

It doesn't. She liked to make self portraits (she didn't make selfies which is different) and she was good at them too, but they account for a small percentage of her output.
 

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It doesn't. She liked to make self portraits (she didn't make selfies which is different) and she was good at them too, but they account for a small percentage of her output.
I cant see much more than well framed, metered and sharp pictures of her self. Was a good photographer with plenty of disposable income and time, when many didnt. The article implies that there is artistic merit in them(?), I dont see that on the other hand I can with Francesca Woodman who use to take pictures of herself.
Vivian pictures for the most part are of a place and time I have no connection to and dont get any from her work, glad it provides for others.
 
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