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Statistically, left handed people used to score higher on IQ tests.

I have heard it posited that this is/was due to the fact that IQ tests tended to measure stubbornness as well as other things.
 

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There you go again, Steve... and you probably threw "spitwauds" at the "blackbaurd" in School. I'm sure glad Beowulf wasn't a chemist.
 

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Maybe Connecticut was more progressive in not forcing me to be 'right' handed. But, hopefully, that is not still done. - David Lyga
 

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PE,...<snip>

And, PE, I do adore your quote: "Wait until you have to read something "written" by a 20 something modern person!". Academics seems to be, essentially, either meaningless in today's culture or subordinated to the level of mediocrity. Just try STUDYING in today's noisy libraries and just try SUGGESTING to the staff that the (yes, THEIR) noise level be kept down. A year ago in the (exclusive!!!) Rittenhouse Square branch of the Philadelphia Free Library there were two rather well-to-do women whose screaming children (about 5 years old) kept the Library at bay for 45 minutes!!! And I do not know for how long afterward because I told them, in a bit of a forceful voice (but not yelling) that they were not the only people here entitled to use the library. The big, black guard immediately told me not to talk to them that way (he was defending this affluent, white privilege) (!!!). I simply left because one simply cannot cut through that combination of adrenalin and moxie without going mad in this neurotic city of fools.

I don't go to libraries, they have nothing I could use right now. Whenever I go, there is just way too much noise and distractions these days. As far as the educational system, I will only comment from my personal observations, which is that the current system is good for training students to spit out facts and figures and just plain rote memorizing. I saw it a lot in my college classes that I was taking. When the tests were multiple choice, most students seemed to do pretty well, but when there was any kind of critical thought, say in an essay test, the grades went down the drain fast. The students weren't taught any kind of critical thinking skills.

As for Philadelphia, lets just say it has a reputation for a reason...



Rick: i must be younger (63) than you: because, also, I am left-handed, but was never punished for that indiscretion. And, long ago, I forgot how to write (except my signature). I print always. - David Lyga

I don't write either, I always print. I'm 44.
 

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I am upset that cursive is no longer taught in our schools. My youngest is still in high school, and has beautiful hand writing(because I taught her).

The traditionalist in me agrees. However, the practical part of me disagrees.

I had an argument with my daughter's teacher. She was trying to get her to write with joined letters and loops in the current prescribed style but my daughter was having trouble writing anything legible.

When I write by hand I write each letter separately and simply so I showed her the same method. Her teacher complained that if she didn't do it the school's way, she wouldn't pass the Key Stage assessment (whatever that means).

I didn't care about that. I would rather have her writing legibly than an unreadable mess.

I don't see why they should have to join letters up. When you type on a computer or read a book the letters are not joined so why should they be when hand written?

Having said that, when done well it does look nice.


Steve.
 

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Mees and Sheperd had studied Latin together bat school

What is a bat school? Not what originally sprang to mind I assume. Bat caves and utility belts?


Steve.
 

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The naming of developers and developing agents seems to have gone through different fashions. For a white -ol was popular but so was -gen as in Kalogen and Eikonogen. The connection between developer names ending in -ol and chemical structure seems a bit felicitous. Strictly speaking in chemistry the suffix -ol applies to only alcohols as in methanol, ethanol, propanol, etc. There are many chemicals that contain the -OH group such as sugars whose names do not end in -ol. The use of the -ol ending is an interesting question to which we may never get an definitive answer.
 

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madgardener (and others): the following was NOT part of my quote but was greyed to appear so:

"I don't go to libraries, they have nothing I could use right now. Whenever I go, there is just way too much noise and distractions these days. As far as the educational system, I will only comment from my personal observations, which is that the current system is good for training students to spit out facts and figures and just plain rote memorizing. I saw it a lot in my college classes that I was taking. When the tests were multiple choice, most students seemed to do pretty well, but when there was any kind of critical thought, say in an essay test, the grades went down the drain fast. The students weren't taught any kind of critical thinking skills.

As for Philadelphia, lets just say it has a reputation for a reason..."

HOWEVER, madgardener, I do tend to agree with this thought. Detroit.....then Philadelphia? Bankruptcy? Not the most diligent or conscientious crowd here. Endless litter and reckless sidewalk cyclists that pose an ongoing threat towards pedestrians. Try to call them on it and all you end up with is the 'finger'. - David Lyga
 
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Jerry;

Remember that HQ is p-Hydroxy Phenol, and Metol is p-Amino Phenol So, the -ol suffix seems to be present in many developing agents.

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And color from the odd American way of spelling colour!...
No more odd than "farbe" or how it's spelled in any other foreign language. Once you stop insisting that you and the US ought merge two separate languages into one, your frustration level will decrease markedly.

For a good time, get thee across the channel and inform your French neighbors how wrongly they're speaking and writing. :D:D
 

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No more odd than "farbe" or how it's spelled in any other foreign language. Once you stop insisting that you and the US ought merge two separate languages into one, your frustration level will decrease markedly.

I don't think they should be merged. I think there should be two separate languages. It's silly to change the spellings of words and make up new words whilst continuing to call it English. Your language could be called American.


And there's no frustration - it's just a bit of light hearted banter (do you use that word?!).


Steve.
 

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The American spelling of the word color was one of a number of modest changes in spelling made by Noah Webster. There is nothing strange about it. What is strange is that the English mispronounce schedule but pronounce school correctly. Such inconsistencies drove the famous British author George Bernard Shaw nuts. Like Webster he sought to reform English spelling.
 

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Jerry;

Remember that HQ is p-Hydroxy Phenol, and Metol is p-Amino Phenol So, the -ol suffix seems to be present in many developing agents.

PE.

Hi Ron,

I thought to disregard phenol since it is the common name for hydroxybenzene. I also thought that the IUPAC naming convention would reserve the ending -ol for alcohols. But that was not to be since the IUPAC name for phenol is benzenol. So much for standardization. Best not to overthink some things.

Jerry
 
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I don't think they should be merged...Your language could be called American...
I've proposed that in a similar exchange we previously had, either here or on the large format forum.

...And there's no frustration...
Are you sure Steve? Didn't Freud say that there's no such thing as a joke? :D

...it's just a bit of light hearted banter (do you use that word?!)...
Yes, banter is engaged in and used in the language here.
 

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My French friends are amazed at the pronunciation and grammar of the Quebec French. Many misunderstandings and "quaintness" as the Parisians put it.

PE
 

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And color from the odd American way of spelling colour!

Except that "color" is from Latin, predating the French word from the English got colour.
 

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To the French everyone else is a joke. For many, many years French children were taught in school that only French culture was relevant. Oh how it must hurt them that English has become the lingua franca of the world. A hundred years after Hastings, Norman French families were having to send to France for tutors to teach their children how to speak proper French. Such was the power of the emerging English language.

To understand why English has replaced French look at the following site for the conjugation of the verb to kiss in French where it is a regular verb. http://www.learn-french-help.com/french-for-kiss.html I shudder to think of the irregular French verbs. English is so elegant in its simplicity.
 
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My French friends are amazed at the pronunciation and grammar of the Quebec French. Many misunderstandings and "quaintness" as the Parisians put it.

PE

They would horrified and not amazed at the French spoken in Louisiana. Laissez les bons temps rouler. There are other variants that do even more violence to the French language. :smile:
 
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Jerry, the French are wonderful if you just try to speak their language. They become polite and courteous at just the effort. But, i managed many a bent nose before I could remember that tirez meant pull and pousez meant push! :D

I am part French and still have relatives in France. I gave the first part of my last talk at Chalon in my fractured French and then apologized and continued in English. They appreciated the effort.

PE
 
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