Velvia 50 in 120

[braxus]

I got notification at 2PM today B&H had this in stock. I checked 2 hours later and it was all sold out. This is madness trying to get this film at a decent price. 5 years ago you could get a box of 5 for $35 US dollars. Now you're lucky if you can see it for 200. They really should restrict orders on this film to keep flippers from buying large quantities. Did anyone get stock of it today?

 

[Alan Edward Klein]

I just checked their site for this as I use it too. I never even got an email telling me they had it. In any case, it looks like they're taking it off their backorder list of items to sell.

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[koraks]

Sorry for making your retirement such a busy period in life.

 

[Alan Edward Klein]

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Sorry for making your retirement such a busy period in life.

I don't understand. What did the picture contain that was verboten?

 

[MattKing]

I don't understand. What did the picture contain that was verboten?

Nothing verboten.
So many unread Photrio posts, below so many tabs .

 

[Alan Edward Klein]

Nothing verboten.
So many unread Photrio posts, below so many tabs .

Oh I should have cropped it.

 

[MattKing]

Oh I should have cropped it.

No - it just reveals your humanity .

 

[Ben Hutcherson]

I just loaded a roll of RVP(not RVP 50) in an F2AS earlier today. It's been kicking around the camera bag way too long, so who knows what it will look like(and I don't have anything important planned for it).

It's increasingly looking like once the Fuji stock in my freezer is gone-and I have RVP, RVP-50, RVP-100, RDP-III, and even some RAP and RVP-100F stuffed down in there, all spread across 35mm, 120, and even some 220 and 4x5-it may not get replaced unless the availability situation increases. Effectively killing RVP-100 in the US(which I know wasn't a Fuji decision) was the start of that, but the efforts needed to get a single roll, especially when I can get E100 in any offered format pretty much any time I want it, makes me not want to chase it. RVP and RVP-100 are the only Fuji transparency films I've ever really "bonded" with(for whatever reason, I've never seen the magic from RVP-50 that I saw when I shot my first roll of RVP back in 2005, where I CAN get it from RVP-100). RDP-III 100F is objectively a great film, but subjectively I even if the pallette/balance of E100 isn't quite to my taste, I still fall in love with how "clean" it is every time I shoot it(just as I did E100G, and I even liked the colors from E100GX), a reaction I've never had to RDP-III even if the grain is supposed to be similar.

 

[Alan Edward Klein]

No - it just reveals your humanity .

Can I show your post to my wife?

 

[mshchem]

Fuji has us right where they want us!

 

[brbo]

Fuji has you buying Instax film and cameras?

 

[Taylor K Nankervis]

Similar problems in Australia with supply and demand — shop gets 100 boxes, announces it in email to members, and by the time most people get in the door it is gone! Frankly, I wish they'd keep their trap shut!

E100 is not a particularly attractive substitute for RVP50 in many special instances; the key is in the way RVP renders its greens and blues. I was not impressed how E100 renders rainforest scenery.

My recommendation with Velvia 50 / 100 (I use both) and RDPII et al is to use it sparingly — for your best work, not snapshots or occasional use. When it becomes available, pounce. Buy what you know you will immediately need, plus a little more for the freezer — do not hoard, as this deprives others from their opportunity to shoot.

I'm not worried how long my stock of RVP50, 100 and RDPII keeps in the deep freeze. Both 67s are loaded with RVP 50, probably yet to be wound to frame 1 from September loading.
There is evidence of people in Australia hoarding around 200-300 boxes of RVP50 (ProPacks) and on-selling to online suppliers. It is common to see a pack going for $300 on eBay — my advice for that is, Buyer Beware.

 

[Alan Edward Klein]

Similar problems in Australia with supply and demand — shop gets 100 boxes, announces it in email to members, and by the time most people get in the door it is gone! Frankly, I wish they'd keep their trap shut!

E100 is not a particularly attractive substitute for RVP50 in many special instances; the key is in the way RVP renders its greens and blues. I was not impressed how E100 renders rainforest scenery.

My recommendation with Velvia 50 / 100 (I use both) and RDPII et al is to use it sparingly — for your best work, not snapshots or occasional use. When it becomes available, pounce. Buy what you know you will immediately need, plus a little more for the freezer — do not hoard, as this deprives others from their opportunity to shoot.

I'm not worried how long my stock of RVP50, 100 and RDPII keeps in the deep freeze. Both 67s are loaded with RVP 50, probably yet to be wound to frame 1 from September loading.
There is evidence of people in Australia hoarding around 200-300 boxes of RVP50 (ProPacks) and on-selling to online suppliers. It is common to see a pack going for $300 on eBay — my advice for that is, Buyer Beware.

I have two boxes of 4x5 RVP in my freezer. Resale prices are going up faster than gold.

 

[braxus]

It's the flippers that are hoarding this stuff keeping it from others. They want to continue selling it for 200-300 a box of 5. Im going to talk to B&H to see what i can do. B&H sells it the cheapest out of anyone at 70 a box of 5. I only want 3 boxes of the stuff to tie me over. I'll have to wait till my budget can afford that again.

 

[Taylor K Nankervis]

I have two boxes of 4x5 RVP in my freezer. Resale prices are going up faster than gold.

I have only one box of 4x5 RVP50, unopened, expiry 4/2020. On my shopping errands I have unfortunately not seen any new boxes of RVP50 in 4x5; I think it was discontinued (?). Most colleagues still using 4x5 have moved on to the more readily available supply of 4x5 in negative format, and most often B&W.

 

[Taylor K Nankervis]

It's the flippers that are hoarding this stuff keeping it from others. They want to continue selling it for 200-300 a box of 5. Im going to talk to B&H to see what i can do. B&H sells it the cheapest out of anyone at 70 a box of 5. I only want 3 boxes of the stuff to tie me over. I'll have to wait till my budget can afford that again.

Aye. There's decent money to be made from gleefully ripping gullible people off!
These are troubling times. I am appalled and angered by the practice — unbridled greed and selfishness.

 

[mshchem]

I looked back at some of my B&H orders from 2018. 10 rolls 120 Ektar, delivered $54.95, Provia-f and Velvia less than $8 a roll. Those were the good old days.

 

[armadsen]

I got an email that 35mm Provia was back in stock. I added 5 rolls to my cart then decided to see if they had any Velvia. They didn’t have any 35mm Velvia, but did have 120, so I bought 5 rolls of that too. The Velvia arrived today with expiration 03/2026. The Provia is apparently shipping from a different warehouse.

Anyway, I actually have been able to get Provia and Velvia more often lately. The last time I was in my local camera store, a couple weeks ago, they had plenty of 35mm Provia. I bought a few rolls from them too.

 

[Andrew O'Neill]

@braxus I'll check its availability when I'm in Japan in April.

 

[Prest_400]

It's all but available in Europe. I know, at least for Provia, that it sells out very quickly when there is a batch hitting the stores.

 

[Alan Edward Klein]

I have only one box of 4x5 RVP50, unopened, expiry 4/2020. On my shopping errands I have unfortunately not seen any new boxes of RVP50 in 4x5; I think it was discontinued (?). Most colleagues still using 4x5 have moved on to the more readily available supply of 4x5 in negative format, and most often B&W.

I have two boxes of Velvia 50 in 4x5 with 2022 expiry, one box opened. The other unopened is 2023. All are in the freezer at -6F. Velvia 50 has been discontinued in large format only available in 120 and 35mm. Velvia 100 is available but has been declared illegal in the USA because of some chemicals in it.

 

[Taylor K Nankervis]

Velvia 100 is available but has been declared illegal in the USA because of some chemicals in it.

'Illegal'...!?
'Some chemicals'??
What is illegal, where and why??

Velvia 100 is available in Australia with no such bizarre restrictions; the only problem being that when it does become available, it is pretty much instantly snapped up.

 

[MattKing]

Manufacture of Velvia 100 apparently requires the use of some chemical components that constitute an unacceptable workplace health hazard. As a result, their use has been banned in many jurisdictions around the world, including the USA.
As a result, the film cannot be legally imported or commercially developed in the USA.
Fuji has apparently made the decision that it is not economically viable to re-design the film in order to incorporate the much safer components that are used in its other films. So they have essentially abandoned the market for the film in large parts of the world.