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laz127 said:Sometimes one must sacrifice person freedom for the greater good.
laz127 said:Sometimes one must sacrifice person freedom for the greater good.
laz127 said:Sometimes one must sacrifice person freedom for the greater good.
mrcallow said:Sounds good, but is not what I believe this country is about.
Isn't this where we quote that old man who said something about anyone who sacrifices liberty for security deserves neither?
Satinsnow said:If in fact the information contained in the article is correct and truthful, I would suspect she indeed has a good case,
The officer himself said that she did not -- that he did not suspect her of commiting any crime. Which was the point of the original article, and why the police dropped charges after arresting her for... nothing.Alex Hawley said:Did she do something to provoke the officer or provoke the incident?
mrcallow said:I'm sorry I wasn't clear. They don't enhance security, except maybe in some people's minds.
If they did it would still be too high a price to pay.
Alex Hawley said:I'm not sure why photographers and journalists are always presumed to be so saintly.
Alex Hawley said:I'm not sure why photographers and journalists are always presumed to be so saintly.
Sean said:
bjorke said:There has never been much doubt about how a court would perceive these situations. The First Amendment is a Big Hammer compared to the concerns of a city policeman's ego (or even claimed national security interests, as evidenced in the Pentagon Papers case).
What I see here is police abuse of their authority, and then further abuse to cover up their tracks and claim "see, the system is working, we're investigating terrorists!" despite the fact that they don't have any real terrorists to investigate, and they know it. They have the resources to do it, while Tanya Ortega de Chamberlin is just one lone individual (who has now been deprived of her job as well) -- to fight this may cost many months and many thousands of dollars, while the worst punishment the cops will get is an admonition and the taxpayers will foot the bill for any fines.
recall the scene with Sir Bedevere in "Monthy Python," where the villagers dress up a girl as a witch just so they can have someone to burn, then rationalize the process? Well, the cops sure do look like those illiterate villagers from here.
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