Underrated film cameras

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To be clear, that other individual called you obtuse last week--not me.

Yes, and I responded to that. Then it was time to more or less stop. There is no point trading insults with someone who hides behind a fake name - you can never reach him.
 

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The only outcome will be @Sirius Glass responds. Then you respond. Then he responds. At this point, maybe it should be a private conversation.


I'm more than willing to poke fun at Sirius because of his Hasslebad fetish, but this is getting real childish real fast.

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Well, as the old saying goes... sometimes you gotta fight fire....

Yes, but I never attacked him. I disagreed with him. If someone thinks disagreement is an attack, then there's no point continuing to talk, because you'll never convince them of anything.

I highly recommend utilizing the ignore feature to those who just aren't getting along. Putting them on ignore means you can no longer see their posts, therefor any insults or nitpicking is essentially them just yelling into the wind.

Jeremy


It can also save your sanity, and leave him looking like a lone idiot in the midst.


Yes, and I responded to that. Then it was time to more or less stop. There is no point trading insults with someone who hides behind a fake name - you can never reach him.

I agree it is time to take this out of the public. Lets get a room, but I will start on top.
 
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This thread has become its own click-bait.
 

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This thread has become its own click-bait.

but... but.... you can't help but stare when you pass all the flashy lights and carnage.
 

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Ha! I came here looking for underrated film cameras

All the people in the big argument bought them all while we were here reading their bickering... You can pick them up second time through at 200% of the last price.
 

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but... but.... you can't help but stare when you pass all the flashy lights and carnage.
Too true!
On another note- I'm sure the K1000 was (is!) a great camera, but the soft spot I have for the Spotmatic never goes away. The classic screw mount- so simple and universal.
 

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I was out shooting with mine just this morning and it's a favorite. My dad bought two of them in '84, one for me - I was headed to design school and a manual camera was required - and one for him. They're as basic as can be, and fun too.

Yes, I still have a K1000. Still use it.
 

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eddie, how do you like the Holga Pano?
 

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On another note- I'm sure the K1000 was (is!) a great camera, but the soft spot I have for the Spotmatic never goes away. The classic screw mount- so simple and universal.
They're both great and inexpensive fun! And when you consider a properly serviced and maintained Spotmatic, K1000, or similar rugged, simple camera from another brand will outlast any photographer that buys it, does it really matter all that much if you pay $100 or $300 for it?

I understand that price is important for collectors that quickly flip cameras or need to turn a profit for whatever reason, and for those on a student's budget price is important too, but these are still quite inexpensive little inventions over the long haul even if you "overpay", and the cost of the camera is quickly eclipsed by film and processing if you actually use the thing.

My advice, for what it's worth to anyone looking for advice, is to research cameras and try to get one that you'll keep for the long term joy of using it. Ignore temporary overrated/underrated calculations and focus on what you want to use for the long haul. You'll quickly forget the pain of the purchase price of the camera, but the agony of paying for film and processing is forever. ;-)
 

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It is good to see that the thread is back on the topic. Carry on.
 

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I like it. It's a lot of fun. If you like Holgas/Dianas, you'll like it.

Great to hear. I've got a few Holgas. One is a pinhole wide. Waiting for Holga Pan to get shipped.
 

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Pentax 645. The original 645 model. I used two of these with a complete set of Takumars professionally for probably around 20 years. Not so much as a hiccup did I ever experience with the cameras. Finally sold most of the system except for one body and its 35mm and 120mm Talkumars. Both optics I found preferred to Hasselblad's 40mm Distagon and 120mm S-Planar optics. The 35mm Takumar and the 120mm Macro Takumar I found to be actually a bit sharper than the Hass equivalents.

Agfa Isolette: Small folding 120 6x6 camera. A 10"x10" B&W enlargement made with an Isolette when viewed side by side with one made from a Hasselblad... no difference. It's only when you make 16'x20" B&W enlargements where you MIGHT see a difference. Though chromes and color negatives made with an Isolette don't have the contrast of ones made with a Hass.
 

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I love my K1000 and unlike all my other 35mm SLRs, the light meter still works! Unlike, that is, an MX, an ME, a Spotmatic, two Nikons, and two Canons. Note that with every one of the mechanical cameras, the shutter, film advance and mechanical f-stops still work fine. Auto cameras are all dead. My summer project is to stick to the K1000 and FP4 in D23. Fast, light and accurate focus,and bye-bye Sino Promise.
 

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My summer project is to revive and use a Ricoh Singlex TLS. Just completed the revive portion of the project. It seems like a very under-rated camera… whatever that means.
 

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I just remember my Pentax FS 1N, very nice first generation AF, not as fancy as top of the line Minolta, Canon or Nikon, easy to use, fast AF for a first generation body, good motor drive, only down side is that F stops are not shown in the viewfinder, only shutter speed. Takes a Lithium 2CR5, there is an AA battery insert which I've never been able to find.
 

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My summer project is to revive and use a Ricoh Singlex TLS. Just completed the revive portion of the project. It seems like a very under-rated camera… whatever that means.
I agree! Mine came with a Rikenon 50mm 1.7 and the lens offers colors/contrast very similar to the Takumars from the same era. The camera is very much like a Spotmatic, but more bricklike and less pleasant! This was my first SLR and I remain fond of it decades later...
 

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My summer project is to revive and use a Ricoh Singlex TLS. Just completed the revive portion of the project. It seems like a very under-rated camera… whatever that means.
I think I remember a review of this camera way back when in pop photo. Basic, but well made, and the lens tests were outstanding. The brand was always overshadowed by the big names.
 

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Chinon, Ricoh, Cosina all made pretty good cameras and lens, Ricoh of course now owns Pentax, Chinon was bought out be Kodak just in time to fold up, Cosina is still making lens, don't think they are making bodies.
 
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There are "Sears" branded 35mm SLRs made by Ricoh and "Vivitar" branded cameras made by Cosina that are dirt cheap but quite capable cameras and lenses. Most are either K-Mount or M42. Some have various auto modes and even spot metering on a few.

"Vivitar" primes can also be quite good, especially those made by Tokina.
 

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I have one branded Ricoh KR-5 (often found as an XR500) and it's a very nice body. I got the Rikenon 50mm 1.7 to go with it and other than the top speed being only 1/500 it's rock solid.
 
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