ULF sizes and history - anyone got any?

David · Nov 8, 2005

Regarding the 7x11 format I must announce a new baby. I've wanted a 7x11 for several years and finally found one and just received it. It is a Korona in like new condition (bellows are brittle and shot though) with 4 film holders, the extension rail, the support struts and a 5x7 and 8x10 back adapter.

In line with the history question, does anyone know how popular any of these odd formats were?

tdeming · Nov 8, 2005

David said:
Regarding the 7x11 format I must announce a new baby. I've wanted a 7x11 for several years and finally found one and just received it. It is a Korona in like new condition (bellows are brittle and shot though) with 4 film holders, the extension rail, the support struts and a 5x7 and 8x10 back adapter.

In line with the history question, does anyone know how popular any of these odd formats were?

Hi David,

cool camera!

Just out of curiosity, how big is the back frame? If you can use 8x10, can you do 7x11 verticals!?

cheers

Tim

David · Nov 8, 2005

The back is removable and can rotate like most LF backs so 7x11 verticals are easy as anything. The back is 13" square (330mm). It has 35" of extendion and is surprisingly rigid. The front has rise and shift and the back has swing and axis tilt. I'm certain it has had very little if any use and has just been stored for decades. The camera gods have smiled.

Annie · Nov 8, 2005

A quirky bit of 7x11 history here... when you dressed up to take photographs...

http://www.dangel.net/PhotoShopStudioSection/LuellaSmithSoutheasternLog.html

Tim... the back on my Kodak 2D is used in either the horizontal or vertical position.

Wonder how many of us are using this format..... we should have a gathering somewhere in the world on 7/11...

Cheers Annie

JG Motamedi · Nov 8, 2005

It is interesting to note that plate sizes from the 19th century are all 1:1.3. Thus, a half plate (4.25"x 5.5") isn't exactly half of a whole plate (6.5" x 8.5"), but rather half of the length trimmed down to the proper ratio. The only modern size which uses anything close to this ratio is 11x14.

David A. Goldfarb · Nov 8, 2005

JG Motamedi said:
It is interesting to note that plate sizes from the 19th century are all 1:1.3. Thus, a half plate (4.25"x 5.5") isn't exactly half of a whole plate (6.5" x 8.5"), but rather half of the length trimmed down to the proper ratio. The only modern size which uses anything close to this ratio is 11x14.

You left out television.

JG Motamedi · Nov 8, 2005

You left out television

Ah yes, you are correct...

jimgalli · Nov 8, 2005

Annie said:
Wonder how many of us are using this format..... we should have a gathering somewhere in the world on 7/11...

Cheers Annie

7X11 Users UNITE! Talk about real snobbery

waynecrider · Nov 8, 2005

Annie said:
A quirky bit of 7x11 history here... when you dressed up to take photographs...

http://www.dangel.net/PhotoShopStudioSection/LuellaSmithSoutheasternLog.html

Tim... the back on my Kodak 2D is used in either the horizontal or vertical position.

Wonder how many of us are using this format..... we should have a gathering somewhere in the world on 7/11...

Cheers Annie

I wonder if I dress more like MR Gilpatrick I'll get hassled less by the police; Or maybe I'll find a date!

Steve_7x · Nov 8, 2005

7x11

7x11 (and 7x17) is where the 7x in my handle came from.

Wonderful format(s). Glad to see that many others are shooting with this format.

Mine is nicknamed the Big Slurpy. For those unfamiliar - Big Slurpees were drinks you used to get at 7-11 convenience stores here stateside.

Cheers!

tdeming · Nov 9, 2005

David said:
The back is removable and can rotate like most LF backs so 7x11 verticals are easy as anything. The back is 13" square (330mm). It has 35" of extendion and is surprisingly rigid. The front has rise and shift and the back has swing and axis tilt. I'm certain it has had very little if any use and has just been stored for decades. The camera gods have smiled.

Sounds like a great set-up. I was looking at a 7x11 a year or so ago, but was thinking of mainly using it for 5x7s --and so didnt get it (I have a 5x7 already). I'm regretting that decision now a bit. I guess the problem for me was obtaining 7x11 holders (the one I was looking at didnt have any --it also only had a 5x7 sliding back). Have you managed to get a hold of many holders? That would seem to me to be the main drawback of this format, I hardly see any coming up used. I guess you could buy new ones from S&S, but that would be well out of my price range.

Tim

jimgalli · Nov 9, 2005

Holders are indeed the biggest drawback to the 711 format. Sort of hi-jacking the thread here, sorry. The S&S holders are not only expensive, but the film doesn't register in the same plane as the original Kodak holders did which is problematic. Original holders are all at least 80 years old and most are tired. I actually bid on the camera that David bought with the thought of robbing the 3 good holders and re-selling just the camera at a loss.

David · Nov 9, 2005

I've actively kept an eye on holders for about a year and a half now and found only two on ebay which I bought. The camera came with 4. Lens and Repro has several for sale at $125.00 each. I'm led to believe that there were not that many of them out there. Happily all these holders are in fine condition but as Jim said, they are often 'tired'. Getting into 7x11 takes patience, luck or both but I think it is worth the bother. Funny how some things just seem to fit a person or way of seeing for no apparently objective reason.

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