but the impact of contrast and deep blacks cannot be achieved other wise.I can't imagine my BW printed on anything else but matte. Gloss is gross for BW.
Bob, did you realize I was talking about inkjet paper?Ilford Warmtone Matt is beautiful with a slight, slight sepia and then selenium
Art 300 is beautiful toned or un toned.
My two favourite papers these days.
Hmm. I also thought is was just an aesthetic choice.Matte and glossy surface papers have different purposes. Matte reduces the emphasis of fine detail whereas glossy does the opposite and is intended when an image has specular highlights. It is the image which should decide which paper to use.
interesting approach.Matte and glossy surface papers have different purposes. Matte reduces the emphasis of fine detail whereas glossy does the opposite and is intended when an image has specular highlights. It is the image which should decide which paper to use.
Glossy for Adams and matte for Stieglitz...interesting approach.
No I did not, but for a beautiful inkjet paper I like Museum Etching by HannamuhleBob, did you realize I was talking about inkjet paper?
OK, I'll give that a try.No I did not, but for a beautiful inkjet paper I like Museum Etching by Hannamuhle
For glossy I really like the Silk Baryta from Hannamuhle... I just finished a very nice project... It is very good for Black and White and it is quite beautiful with colour images.Generally I don't like the glossy or the so-called premium glossy papers that printer manufacturers make. They have the cold plasticky look. Kind of like the RC papers of the inkjet printing. I like the Ilford Gold Fiber SIlk which is a "baryta" paper fashioned after the traditional fiber baryta papers that apugers will be familiar with. Canson's Baryta Photographique is very similar. They are not exactly the same as the fiber based silver gelatine but as close as can be expected. They have a slight tooth that makes the glare not so distracting.
For matte, my favorite has been the Canson Rag Photographique. Probably best combination of texture, tone and Dmax and price that I found in my search earlier on. I have samples a few others since then but found no reason to switch.
I have a sample pack from Hahnemuhle. May be one of these days I will try them out. They are a bit more expensive than the Cansons and Ilfords so I have been hesitant.For glossy I really like the Silk Baryta from Hannamuhle... I just finished a very nice project... It is very good for Black and White and it is quite beautiful with colour images.
In North America I find this range of paper very available and stocked by many vendors, and they are very helpful to us little people.I have a sample pack from Hahnemuhle. May be one of these days I will try them out. They are a bit more expensive than the Cansons and Ilfords so I have been hesitant.
I will most certainly try that paper asap.I have been very dissatisfied with darkroom FB paper changes. Perhaps due to removal of cadmium, new ones just don't look as nice as those from past decades. Also, matte darkroom papers were never able to produce a real black, and in recent years the glossy ones have become too glossy. Reportedly this is because the single remaining supplier (Schoeller) only offers one baryta base material to photo manufacturers. Whatever the cause, especially for prints not dry mounted and displayed under strictly controlled lighting conditions, I find their high surface reflectivity to be a deal breaker.
After taking the plunge into inkjet printing earlier this year with an Epson P600, I went through numerous papers from many manufacturers. In the course of those trials, Dick Phillips (he of camera design/manufacturing fame) and I exchanged many of our prints. One thing we discovered is that results differ greatly, on any given paper, depending on whether one uses a Canon (as Dick does) or Epson printer. Dye vs. pigment inks can lead to totally different looks.
My conclusion was that, for Epson inks, Hahnemuhle Photo Rag Ultra Smooth is damn near perfect. It has no distracting surface reflections, is as sharp as any glossy darkroom paper ever was and, although I don't have a reflection densitometer to validate this observation, renders deep blacks extremely well. Those lowest values might be close to density 2.0. Dick Phillips is still searching to find a replacement for the now-discontinued Red River San Gabriel V1.0 he so liked. He's more inclined toward a semi-gloss surface, and hasn't yet discovered one that pleases him.
I've no confidence in so-called soft proofing approaches. The many inkjet papers I've tried all required multiple iterations to optimize results; one could not rely on how images appeared on screen. However, with the Hahnemuhle-supplied profile selected and Epson color management turned off, only contrast/brightness adjustment were necessary for me.
Yesterday some more of Dick's prints arrived, including a couple on Hahnemuhle FineArt Baryta Satin. This led me to do additional research into Canon printers and post this update....Dick Phillips (he of camera design/manufacturing fame) and I exchanged many of our prints. One thing we discovered is that results differ greatly, on any given paper, depending on whether one uses a Canon (as Dick does) or Epson printer. Dye vs. pigment inks can lead to totally different looks...
Thanks for the education....Pigment-based Canon Pro-1000 comes with a clear-coat ink called Chroma Optimizer that they lay on the glossy paper on top of the the pigment to equalize the reflections over areas of varying coverage. Epson has a non-pigmented ink as well called the Gloss Optimizer that functions similarly to counter the gloss differential. This is available only in their HG2 ink-set which is in P400, but not in P600 or the P800.
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