It makes perfect sense. If the person doesn’t have the item, it’s most definitely a scam. If the person has the item it might be a scam.
No that doesn't make sense. Whether or not someone has the item he/she still can scam you or not just the same. Proving that the person has the item doesn't make a difference.
It's about ethics and phiosophy but it's not photography and it's about trust. I did quite a few of sales and giving away and getting free stuff from other photrio members. It works out very well when we trust eachother. We just send the item and the money we don't need the other to prove anything. We don't need to receive payment first. We don't need to use paypal. The process is much quicker and save us fee. The fee is what we have to pay when we don't trust eachother.
I was about to sell a thermometer for someone and I did post a picture of the thermometer and I accept the first offer the person made. I also the price was very reasonable. However, the person wanted me to post another picture with hand written note with the date to prove that I have it. I feel offended and I also think how can I trust the person if he doesn't trust me.
However, I would like to thanks member Rick A. who sent me his camera and lens before he receive my payment so I get it quickly. Thank you.
It's about ethics and phiosophy but it's not photography and it's about trust. I did quite a few of sales and giving away and getting free stuff from other photrio members. It works out very well when we trust eachother. We just send the item and the money we don't need the other to prove anything. We don't need to receive payment first. We don't need to use paypal. The process is much quicker and save us fee. The fee is what we have to pay when we don't trust eachother.
I was about to sell a thermometer for someone and I did post a picture of the thermometer and I accept the first offer the person made. I also the price was very reasonable. However, the person wanted me to post another picture with hand written note with the date to prove that I have it. I feel offended and I also think how can I trust the person if he doesn't trust me.
However, I would like to thanks member Rick A. who sent me his camera and lens before he receive my payment so I get it quickly. Thank you.
You are absolutely correct. Trust makes life a lot easier. If we can't trust each other, who can we trust? I'm in.
.... However, the person wanted me to post another picture with hand written note with the date to prove that I have it. I feel offended and I also think how can I trust the person if he doesn't trust me.
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I had a long time member of Large format photography forum try to rip me and several others off. Totally out of character. I paid for it as a purchase of merchandise so PayPal and Visa had my back.
Trust but verify, no reason to take offense, just good business.
Best Regards Mike
I guess we should be ready to provide evidence when asked politely, no questions asked, no emotions engaged.
It's a simple cautionary online practice, NOT an accusation to be butthurt about.
And it's probably not wise to force potential buyer to do research about how trustworthy a given online profile is at any given moment - too much work when a simple question can be asked to provide said picture.
It's better to be annoyed by this move (having to ask for such a thing, having to provide the asked evidence) than risking additional layer of scam from buyer perspective. After all it's not a very hard thing to do if you have the item - takes 2 minutes or less and is healthier than taking offense for days.
When online scams are prevalent, I'd argue that people SHOULD ask for evidence as any default trust in things online has been eroded long time ago - this communication will restore this trust somewhat, provided it runs smoothly.
Just a week ago I had to buy 3 items no longer manufactured to have one in good condition despite all deals saying that the item in question is in perfectly good working condition. If I'd been more thorough, I'd spend less money and save my nerves by engaging less in fraudulent/erroneous descriptions.
Trust, but verify. Or as russians say: doverai, no proverai.
I suppose the buyer should provide a written date stamp of his money?
I suppose the buyer should provide a written date stamp of his money?
Why would that be necessary if the buyer sends the money first?
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