Tri-X @ 800 @ 20C + Rodinal 1:100 Stand develoment

[RoboRepublic]

Just looking for some times that folks have tried with this combination. Thinking to do stand development for minimum grain and as much flexibility with contrast as possible. (portraits on the negatives )

Normally I'd start the journey with digital truth's massive dev chart table, but they have a time of 17.5 minutes, with this combination at 24C. Which I imagine, temperature corrected for 20C should be 21 minutes or so. Am in the ball park?
Thanks for being with me on the journey for another weekend!

 

[Lachlan Young]

Thinking to do stand development for minimum grain and as much flexibility with contrast as possible.

It doesn't do this, no matter how much people want it to. You'll be better off with 1+25 or 1+50 and normal agitation patterns. Maybe 8-10 mins at 1+25/ 20oC as you have pushed somewhat - and depending on whether you are printing with a diffused or condenser light source - though the contrast of the scene and your metering habits may also play a role in determining time. You'll find that Rodinal (for a number of reasons) tends to shoulder highlights later/ less than more solvent developers.

 

[RoboRepublic]

So much to learn, thanks!

 

[Juan Valdenebro]

Hi Robo,
I see you're concerned about minimum grain...
Although current Tri-X has smaller grain than before, it is a present type of grain, so both film and developer are precisely against what you want...
The good news is Tri-X can give you small grain too: you can develop it with D-76 or Xtol as if you used it at 400, but simply underexposing it a stop at 800.
In Rodinal its speed is close to 200, so reaching 800 is a serious push...
Well exposed, the film resolves detail very well.
Both types of look are totally different.
And at 200 in Rodinal, with delicate agitation, and at 20C, 19C or 18C, grain is small and sharp, beautiful, and tone is right...
Pushing it in Rodinal is OK if your scenes are very low contrast and you seek high contrast prints with a photojournalistic look: they used to print those ones small... It works that way...
Lachlan is right about stand offering you nothing.
Have fun!

 

[Bill Burk]

I just read a post from someone whose Rodinal 1+100 came out blank. Why not use a more traditional 1:30?