Tri-x @1600 in HC-110

[Petraio Prime]

Weirdly with handheld nightshooting your negatives wont look like those shot at box speed or under during that day..... and your printing techniques will be very different too. Who'd have guessed...

Just leave the camera at home and enjoy the music.

 

[Gerald C Koch]

Uh...yep. I think part of the problem is that many have never seen a properly exposed and developed negative and high-quality print.

I must agree with you again. Today's technology allows people with very little knowledge or talent to set up websites where they profess to be experts. Unfortunately it is these very sites that are enthusiastically embraced by various contrarians.

 

[Craig75]

Just leave the camera at home and enjoy the music.

thankfully many people ignored your "advice" and that's why we have a record of the people playing the music. nice try tho

 

[Petraio Prime]

thankfully many people ignored your "advice" and that's why we have a record of the people playing the music. nice try tho

Hire a painter or sculptor.

 

[Gerald C Koch]

Post of jazz great Dexter Gordon taken many years ago when films were much slower. A fast film might have had an ISO of 100. Shows what can be accomplished by a photographer who knows how to deal with low light situations.

https://images.search.yahoo.com/yhs/search?p=dexter+gordan+jazz+photo&hspart=att&hsimp=yhs-att_001&imgurl=http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-6U-kJCYQSGM/US00YSrcygI/AAAAAAAAadY/qNnrWsrCG_c/s1600/Dexter+Gordon.jpg#id=0&iurl=http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-6U-kJCYQSGM/US00YSrcygI/AAAAAAAAadY/qNnrWsrCG_c/s1600/Dexter+Gordon.jpg&action=click

 

[Craig75]

I dont often taken a theatre spotlight out with me tho...

 

[Gerald C Koch]

I dont often taken a theatre spotlight out with me tho...

If you look at the sample photographs you will see three spotlights. See repeated link below. A good photographer uses light to his advantage, however the samples were shot when the subject was in darkness. I would consider this poor technique.

http://filmdev.org/recipe/show/11327

 

[Craig75]

In that beautiful dexter gordon shot the photographer is using what is im assuming powerful theatre spotlights to model the musician during rehearsals. To my eye its not an adhoc shot but posed with powerful floods.

Adhoc night street shooting from hip, no finder, etc doesnt allow that. You take what you get. Something like invisible city or night walk by ken schles are very tricky to do even if they may offend the eye of someone who holds the "classical negative" above all others. Even in those filmdev shots id assume photographer is just some random dude in crowd. His photo of girl is lovely tho.

 

[Gerald C Koch]

While a spot light is used in the Gordon photo it is not allowed to overpower the ambient light. You will notice that the musician behind Gordon, who is not in the spotlight, is not thrown into shadow.

I agree with 'some random dude." He had the advantage of at least three extra stops of film speed over the Gordon photograph and still could not get a decent image. Certainly bad examples do not generate any enthusiasm for the 'recipe.'

 

[Craig75]

The musicians in background of dexter shot are lit too.

But nevermind. At least i had the pleasure of seeing that shot for first time in many years. Still as magesterial as first time.

 

[adamblackmanphotocom]

When I push Tri-x to 1600 with HC-110, I use dilution B and develope for 15-16 min. For me the key is cutting the agitation down substantially. I do 2-3 inversions every 2 min.

here's a great link for info I found very helpful on dilutions and developing times.

good luck!

http://www.covingtoninnovations.com/hc110/