Transporting 8"x10" DDS in the field.

[Trevor Crone]

Apparently they do!

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/POWAWALKER-EL...84|39:1|66:2|65:12&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14.l1318

Free postage! Mmmmmmmmm.

 

[Dave Miller]

Trevor, this is all getting out of hand, lets get sensible for a moment, and return to your original question. Have you considered liberating a beach donkey?

 

[Trevor Crone]

Trevor, this is all getting out of hand, lets get sensible for a moment, and return to your original question. Have you considered liberating a beach donkey?

David, stop assing around;-}

 

[Dave Miller]

Sorry. I shall behave for the rest of the evening.

 

[jp80874]

Sorry. I shall behave for the rest of the evening.

Time's up. It is 6 PM here, must be midnight there. Back to being yourself.

John Powers

 

[jp80874]

......The abandoned Leominster-Stourport Canal would be a very definite no go for your pram !! It's hard enough walking it anyway......... I have been thinking of an Irish wolfhound, I think they can carry packs like a mule or donkey.

I take your point about hiking trails, but creativity means you nearly always need to leave the trail to get the best viewpoint for an image.

Ian

This tow path, the Ohio & Erie Canal is 110 miles. Approximately 70% of the tow path has been restored to gravel trails for hiking and biking. You can park the car about every 2-3 miles, which is well within my hiking range. I use the jogger to get the gear to the lock, dam or water control. Then I can walk about to find a shot.

On Doctor's orders I hike 10-12 miles a week with two yellow Labrador Retrievers, some times loose, sometimes on one leash with a splitter. They are more than happy to pull the jogger, but the brakes aren't up to the dog power. They also are very good at getting my attention when I am under the dark cloth and a stranger comes near. Some visitors are curious, some I want to keep my eyes on.

Different tools for different folks or applications.


John Powers

 

[John Kasaian]

How do you guys carry 8x10 DDS in the field?

I've a Lowepro Supper Trekker bag but after packing, camera, 2 lenses, light meter etc., I've only room to comfortably carry 3 Toyo 8x10 DDS.

The Swedish Bikini Team!

 

[Tim Boehm]

I use 2 things.

1 - a Kelty Redwing P1 - excellent design - Dead Link Removed
It can hold my Wehman 8x10, 5x7 reduction back, 5 lenses (4 Fujinons and a Rodenstock Apo Sironar S 360), 4 8x10 holders, 5 5x7 holders, 4 4x5 holders, light meter, filters etc. The design is comfortable, and I'm currently hiking up and down rivers with it.

2 - a Sherpa Cart - Dead Link Removed - It can hold everything including a tripod, water and food. Great for when you're in an environment where you can pull and push it.

 

[jp80874]

None of this is true. Powers uses a 250cc MX bike.

Really the John Deer Gator™ Traditional Series diesel 6x4 Utility Vehicle
is more to my liking, but they don’t allow motorized vehicles where I am taking the jogger.
http://www.deere.com/en_AU/equipment/cce/gator/traditional6x4_fullpage.html

John Powers

 

[k_jupiter]

Taking things back on topic.

For many years I used a racing bike to get about with my LF equipment, the bike itself is very light, a hand built by Barry Hoban. I could and did drag this bike off tracks and paths and over very rugged terrain. With panniers over the back wheel I carried all my equipment very easily.

I just can't see the practicality of the 3 wheeled pram.

Ian

So you used a two wheel pram. What's the difference, going from a plane to a solid? About 18 inches in width.

Perhaps I should get a unicycle? That would get to the point.


tim (tongue in cheek) in san jose

 

[jp80874]

Lois Conner said that when she first went to China she saw a family moving house on a bicycle. When she saw a large bureau or chest of drawers on a two wheeler she decided to carry her 7x17, tripod, film holders, lenses, etc., up and down mountains on a bicycle. I guess my third wheel will be considered a training wheel because I am a long way away from her quality of work.

John Powers

 

[df cardwell]

Like the US moon landings ?

Ian

Exactly.

 

[wilsonneal]

I used to use a LowePro backpack that held my entire system, including 4 DDS holders. I've stopped using it.

I found a collapsible cooler at a place like Sam's Club (my brother in law spotted it and got it) for $30 by a company called California Innovations. It's the Platinum at this tiny url: http://tiny.cc/SisSg

That allows me to hold more DDS than I can carry, so I've been putting 5 in there (two runs of my jobo 8x10 developing drum, so convenient). I have room for darkcloth, couple lenses, notebook, meter. Carry the camera and tripod on my shoulder.

The bag seems pretty robust and is waterproof and insulated against the heat (or cold).

Neal

 

[df cardwell]

Actually, since we're spending more and more time on our derelict farm,
I'm thinking of a big woven basket, some Reynolds tubes,
and ... a Newfy !

Diesel might be cheaper, but this WILL be fun.

.

 

[Dave Miller]

Time's up. It is 6 PM here, must be midnight there. Back to being yourself.

John Powers

I was being myself.

 

[Trevor Crone]

I used to use a LowePro backpack that held my entire system, including 4 DDS holders. I've stopped using it.

I found a collapsible cooler at a place like Sam's Club (my brother in law spotted it and got it) for $30 by a company called California Innovations. It's the Platinum at this tiny url: http://tiny.cc/SisSg

That allows me to hold more DDS than I can carry, so I've been putting 5 in there (two runs of my jobo 8x10 developing drum, so convenient). I have room for darkcloth, couple lenses, notebook, meter. Carry the camera and tripod on my shoulder.

The bag seems pretty robust and is waterproof and insulated against the heat (or cold).

Neal

That's exactly the one I've been looking at on UK Ebay. Can you tell me if the dimensions quoted are internal? If so my Ebony should just fit.

Thanks,
Trevor.

 

[jp80874]

That's exactly the one I've been looking at on UK Ebay. Can you tell me if the dimensions quoted are internal? If so my Ebony should just fit.

Thanks,
Trevor.

My guess is that with wheels that small you have a good sidewalk and paved driveway carrier. That is the advantage of the twenty inch wheels and shock absorbers on the jogger.

John Powers

 

[John Kasaian]

I had one of those and they do work nicely! It easily digested my 8x10 'dorff, two additional lenses mounted on 6"x6" boards, filter kit and a whole bunch of film holders, notebook and map. The lghtmeter and loup I hung from my neck. The wheels are capable of "off-roading" but the cooler easily un-velcros from the cart and has a shoulder strap allowing you to press on regardless.

And it is cheap solution to the problem of transportation.

The major drawback IRRC is that when loaded with my photo gear it gets a bit "tippy" When the trail gets cattywompus the cart wants to go @ss over kettle---then you need to take the bag off the cart...but what to do with the cart?

Stash it someplace along the trail and return for it later.

Unless you forget.

Which is why I don't have mine anymore.

 

[Tom Hoskinson]

I had one of those and they do work nicely! It easily digested my 8x10 'dorff, two additional lenses mounted on 6"x6" boards, filter kit and a whole bunch of film holders, notebook and map. The lghtmeter and loup I hung from my neck. The wheels are capable of "off-roading" but the cooler easily un-velcros from the cart and has a shoulder strap allowing you to press on regardless.

And it is cheap solution to the problem of transportation.

The major drawback IRRC is that when loaded with my photo gear it gets a bit "tippy" When the trail gets cattywompus the cart wants to go @ss over kettle---then you need to take the bag off the cart...but what to do with the cart?

Stash it someplace along the trail and return for it later.

Unless you forget.

Which is why I don't have mine anymore.

And why I've never had one!

I'm still happily carrying all of my 8x10 Wehmann kit inside my Gregory backpack.

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[MattKing]

naive question

I don't have any LF equipment, but I've still enjoyed the suggestions in this thread, because sometimes I do take too much equipment with me .

I do have one naive question though - what is a "DDS"?

I'm guessing that one of the "D"s might be Deardorff.

Matt

 

[Ian Grant]

A DDS is a double dark slide. So called because earlier dark-slides only held one sheet of film. The DDS became an International holder in a few sizes.

So a 5x4 or 9x12cm DDS has the same outside dimensions even though one takes 5x4 inch film and the other 9x12cm. Then as you go up in size there are similar outside dimensions for inch/cm size films.

In the UK a dark-slide is a plate or film holder, in the US a dark-slide is the sheath you pull out of the film holder

Ian

 

[Ian Grant]

also in theory a DDS is lighter than 2 single dark-slides, comparing 9x12 singles to DDS's the DDS's are bulkier but quite a bit lighter.

Ian

 

[MattKing]

Thanks for the translation!

Matt

 

[Ian Grant]

And why I've never had one!

I'm still happily carrying all of my 8x10 Wehmann kit inside my Gregory backpack.

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That advert looks remarkably like this one, where I took my wife walking in the spring

But I don't think California has Tin mines . . . . . like Cornwall.

The backpack on their first page however looks remarkably similar to one I bought in Millets (a UK outdoor chain store) which was a very reasonable price, I think just over £20/$40 2 or 3 years ago, it's extremely comfortable.

I favour the backpack over anything, a bike with panniers is also very useful, when the terrain's less hostile, and John Powers pram could be a possibility. I have thought about a racing trike, the cycling variety not the 3 wheeled motor bike. As John pointed out the large wheels are a real bonus, the larger the wheel the easier to traverse rough terrain.

Ian

 

[Trevor Crone]

OT-Ian, is that picture taken near Bottallack, Cornwall? Only I was there in April 2007.

Back OT-I think I'll have to stay with the back pack and see over time if I really need some form of "wheels" to assist me. Many thanks for some very useful pointers.