Tough / mudproof camera

[Alexander Ivashkin]

of the Konica Off Road Cameras, this is the one you want

Konica Genba Kantoku DD

Hey Paul, why this model specifically? Any reasons? In fact I've been looking at 28WB, with a somewhat wider lens (to capture more from shorter distances and to allow for slower shutter speeds without blur).

 

[Paul Howell]

Sorry I didn't know, did read carefully, that you wanted the extra wide 28mm, thought the dual lens of the DD would give more flexibility without the zoom lens pocking out and both lens are relatively fast. I have the 28W, use it a second body when hiking or shooting in bad weather, the AZ monsoon. When I was in Iceland I took the Minolta Weathermatic as my third camera, found the 35mm and 80 lens combo to come in handy. I've had the Pentax Wr 95 for a few years, what I like about it other than the zoom is that runs off a C123 rather than the CR5s which in my area are hard to find, and tend to be expensive. I know that's it a pain, but I tape over the flash on the Weathermatic when I want to keep off like when shooting on a tripod.

 

[Alexander Ivashkin]

Sorry I didn't know, did read carefully, that you wanted the extra wide 28mm

No worries I haven't actually mentioned that
I thought you had other reasons to recommend DD, apart from the lenses (maybe it was a newer or better in some other regards).

I have the 28W, use it a second body when hiking or shooting in bad weather, the AZ monsoon.

How power-hungry it is?.. Is it worth buying two rechargeable CR123's and soldering them into one 2CR5?
For comparison: one 2CR5 battery costs here around $4 and two CR123 accus would be about $15...


By the way, I was in Phoenix in 2013 and really enjoyed the area

 

[Huss]

Is it AF or fixed lens?

AF and super sharp.

 

[Huss]

Taken with the Fuji Work Record

 

[Paul Howell]

No worries I haven't actually mentioned that
I thought you had other reasons to recommend DD, apart from the lenses (maybe it was a newer or better in some other regards).



How power-hungry it is?.. Is it worth buying two rechargeable CR123's and soldering them into one 2CR5?
For comparison: one 2CR5 battery costs here around $4 and two CR123 accus would be about $15...


By the way, I was in Phoenix in 2013 and really enjoyed the area

In my area a CR5 runs about $12.00 if you find one, a lot cheaper on line, the CR123 around $6 for two. Surprising how much difference there can be.

You must have been here in the winter, today it will be between 109 and 111 F.

 

[Paul Howell]

Taken with the Fuji Work Record

I'm putting it on my list.

 

[grain elevator]

I really like the Genbakantoku /off road, but have had the plastic door latches break off. It was the older 28mm model, with the bigger (and I believe better[?]) lens. Does anyone know if they fixed that on later models? Otherwise lovely camera, only missing backlight compensation. I carried a little bit of color neg film with just the orange mask to hold onto the light meter, seemed to work.

 

[Huss]

In my area a CR5 runs about $12.00 if you find one, a lot cheaper on line, the CR123 around $6 for two. Surprising how much difference there can be.

You must have been here in the winter, today it will be between 109 and 111 F.

I buy those batteries online from places like batteries direct etc. A fraction of the cost compared to in store.
Also I have rechargeable CR2 and CR123 from Watson.

 

[Alexander Ivashkin]

In my area a CR5 runs about $12.00 if you find one, a lot cheaper on line, the CR123 around $6 for two. Surprising how much difference there can be.

You must have been here in the winter, today it will be between 109 and 111 F.

So how quickly does it go through a set of CR5, in your opinion?.. Just a rough ballpark figure... if I go for a week-long trip in the middle of nowhere, do I need to take five spare 2CR5's or maybe not even a single one?


Nope, in fact I was there in September and remember vividly seeing exactly 100F on the outside temp reading in my Chevy Which was doubly amusing since I'm used to the metric system and 100C is the temperature of water boiling )

 

[Paul Howell]

Both the Off Road and Weathermatic are pretty good with battery life, no power zoom to drain power. I had a fresh battery in the Weathermatic it lasted well past the 8 or 9 rolls I shot with it in Iceland, just pulled the Weathermatic out and found I had left a battery in it, not used for a couple of years, it powered right up. Same with the Off Road, fresh battery, shot 3 or 4 rolls of film with in Alaska over 10 days. Dont have the Konica manual, but the manual for the Weathermatic lists 54 rolls with CR5, so I guess about the same for the Konica. I

Last week was the 30th anniversary of our hottest day on record, 122 F, at time we were living in house with garden, my termomotor in the shade read 128.

 

[TheRook]

Minolta Weathermatic looks good... what I really didn't like is the fully auto flash that you can't switch off

Applying a strip of electrical tape over the flash window will take care of that! Although the triggered flash obviously will still drain the battery.

 

[KenS]

(post updated after the helpful comments I've received)

Hi everyone,

I'm looking for a 35mm camera that can be used in tough conditions such as winter mountaineering, hiking in rain, plodding in mud or boating in the ocean.
A film GoPro of sorts (forgive me mentioning anything d**ital

Criteria:

• Available online, not a rare and unusual bird

• Inexpensive (as it can be destroyed during my adventures)

• Doesn't have to be 100% waterproof (i.e. for swimming/diving), but should be able to continue working after being soaked in rain for the whole day (maybe with simple wiping or drying), so no or minimal amount of electronics

• Reasonably tough built (i.e. can survive falls from a couple of feet or abuse such as being banged on the rocks while walking / climbing)

• ...Does not have to be metered, judging from the comments. I think I can deal with Sunny16 and a wide-latitude colour neg film

• Reasonably compact to use with one hand or to haul up a mountain clipped to a harness

What would you recommend?..

Cheers,
Alexander

The one you either 'forgot' to put into your camera bag or...' the 'make' and 'model/version' that you can't really
afford until you get an 'increase' in your hourly/weekly/monthly/yearly income.. 8-(

Ken

 

[Alexander Ivashkin]

The one you either 'forgot' to put into your camera bag or...' the 'make' and 'model/version' that you can't really
afford until you get an 'increase' in your hourly/weekly/monthly/yearly income.. 8-(

Ken

I'm afraid the meaning of your posts eludes me Ken

I've actually ordered Genbakantoku which is small, light and very cheap, so your points don't apply

Alexander

 

[Alexander Ivashkin]

All right. I've got a Genbakantoku 28 WB and LUUUUV it! Simple, cheap, tough, mud/water/shockproof (took a few pictures inside a swimming pool)!

Excellent optics, here's a combat photography example [Kodak Ektar 100, scanned by a lab to about 6 Mx]:

 

[Huss]

All right. I've got a Genbakantoku 28 WB and LUUUUV it! Simple, cheap, tough, mud/water/shockproof (took a few pictures inside a swimming pool)!

Excellent optics, here's a combat photography example [Kodak Ektar 100, scanned by a lab to about 6 Mx]:

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That’s a terrible scan. Her jacket is very pixallated.

 

[Alexander Ivashkin]

That’s a terrible scan. Her jacket is very pixallated.

Awwww snap, gotta stop using that lab! Indeed, the pixels are huge and horrible. Or maybe it's Ektar's fault?.. "The finest grain in the world" ha! Never believe the marketing hype

 

[Ces1um]

(post updated after the helpful comments I've received)

Hi everyone,

I'm looking for a 35mm camera that can be used in tough conditions such as winter mountaineering, hiking in rain, plodding in mud or boating in the ocean.
A film GoPro of sorts (forgive me mentioning anything d**ital

Alexander

What about buying an actual film gopro? The first gopros were film and came with a wrist strap. They're inexpensive and built tough. They're also all over ebay for only about forty bucks. They are 28mm wide angle. Seems like it fits your requirements almost exactly.

 

[tezzasmall]

No mention of the Canon sure shot WP-1 yet...?

I've had one for years. It's been taken to the beach, under the sea, out into the rain and on a skiing trip with no problems at all.

A great little camera!

Terry S

 

[ph]

if the original poster wanted 28mm , the Nikonos 28mmLW , NOT the UW version would be suitable. Not designed for diving, but rainproof and unlikie thye UW version, corrected for atmospheric use rather than for water refraction. As to the need for servicing, My Nikonos V must be about 25 years old, is only used for inclement weather, not diving and has not yet sprung a leak. the time for servicing will be if youn get a wet film or malfunctioning meter& shutter, so no reason to calculate that into the current cost.

p.

 

[Donald Qualls]

if the original poster wanted 28mm , the Nikonos 28mmLW , NOT the UW version would be suitable. Not designed for diving, but rainproof and unlikie thye UW version, corrected for atmospheric use rather than for water refraction. As to the need for servicing, My Nikonos V must be about 25 years old, is only used for inclement weather, not diving and has not yet sprung a leak. the time for servicing will be if youn get a wet film or malfunctioning meter& shutter, so no reason to calculate that into the current cost.

p.

"Let's wait until it breaks to maintain it." Not the right way to go. Getting water inside the camera short of immediate malfunction can cause corrosion that can destroy the camera -- or make it much more expensive to fix than a CLA plus some o-rings.

 

[narsuitus]

I've got a Genbakantoku 28 WB and LUUUUV it! Simple, cheap, tough, mud/water/shockproof...

Good luck on your selection. I was totally unaware of the existence of your camera until I read this thread.

Here is what I use. I prefer battery independent cameras.


Bad Weather Cameras by Narsuitus, on Flickr