Thank you all for your input. I wasn't sure about the B/W films. Kodak in the past has had a habit of changing things in in the blink of an eye. They have been disappointing in the past with discontinuing products (i.e., Panatomic X, Plus-X, Microdol X, B/W Paper). It's frustrating when, after much testing of trial & error you think you have a method down producing results that accomplishes your vision using certain products and then they're no more.
Again thank you all for the information!
That's a good breakdown Matt. Thanks. I knew that Eastman Kodak made a deal with Hollywood to guarantee the purchase of a certain amount of Vision 3 movie film for Hollywood. Hollywood was interested as well as they wanted to make sure there would be continued access to the film. Many producers, directors, and filmographies hate digital. So it was a deal both sides wanted.All Kodak branded film is manufactured by Eastman Kodak in Rochester, NY, USA.
The marketing and distribution rights for the still films are still owned by Kodak Alaris.
The marketing and distribution rights for the motion picture films are owned by Eastman Kodak.
Any Kodak branded still film you buy goes from the manufacturer (Eastman Kodak), through the main distributor (Kodak Alaris), through a myriad of more local distributors (sometimes more than one) to the retailer and then to you.
Any Kodak branded motion picture film you buy goes from the manufacturer (Eastman Kodak), through the main distributor (Eastman Kodak again), and either directly to the end user, or through a myriad of more local distributors (sometimes more than one) to the retailer and then to you.
Kodak Alaris recently divested the Kodak colour photo paper, lab related equipment and photo chemical business they had been operating for years, after it, along with the still film marketing and distribution business, came to them as part of the Eastman Kodak bankruptcy.
I thought that Hollywood was mainly interested in the Vision 3 group. But you could be right. I don't know all the details of the Hollywood deal.That motion picture film includes a lot more than the Vision 3 films:
https://www.kodak.com/content/produ...-Motion-Picture-Products-Price-Catalog-US.pdf
Black and White and E6 as well.
Hollywood uses Vision 3.I thought that Hollywood was mainly interested in the Vision 3 group. But you could be right. I don't know all the details of the Hollywood deal.
I agree, in the end I'm also glad to see the familiar "yellow box" still with us.I understand the disappointment, I for one am just glad they're still around.
I have no reason to doubt that Kodak (US) is still making the film, but I cannot say the same about whether they are still spooling and packaging individual film products. I bought 10 rolls of 35mm TMax 400 in Rome in October 2019, every one of which had damage within an inch of the end of the film attached to the spool. I took the damage to be tooling marks, but that's a guess. I have never seen this before in Tmax rolls purchased in the US. The film was shot with a Nikon F6 over a period of 3 weeks and every two rolls I alternated between Tmax and HP5+. Only the Tmax had the marks, usually falling within the last frame.I'm trying to find out if Tmax films are still manufactured by Kodak in Rochester. I understand Kodak Alaris sold a good portion of the color paper and chemistry business to a Chinese firm, but I'm not sure this included Kodak's film or B/W chemistry divisions. I do have a number of rolls of Tmax 100 in my freezer, that are marked "Made in USA", however, I purchased them over a year ago.
No.So if Sino Promise wanted to resurrect Microdol-X would Eastman Kodak have any say in the matter?
The confectioning of all Kodak still film is done by Eastman Kodak in Rochester. That is where much of the current backlog arises, because of the capacity reductions that happened around the time of the bankruptcy.My personal guess is that Kodak (US) is selling bulk film to Kodak Alaris which is contracting out the spooling to a third party.
Things get weirder every day. I don't really need Microdol-X. I use Bromophen for prints, I still use Kodak Se toner, rapid fix, and HCA. Fortunately there are plenty of substitutes, XTOL, I have enough to last me for a while. I just ordered 3 batches of Kodak Flexicolor developer replenisher, it's been made by Sino Promise for years.
In 1965, Kodak was already manufacturing product in a number of locations throughout the world, and that trend was expanding.Things get weirder every day. I don't really need Microdol-X. I use Bromophen for prints, I still use Kodak Se toner, rapid fix, and HCA. Fortunately there are plenty of substitutes, XTOL, I have enough to last me for a while. I just ordered 3 batches of Kodak Flexicolor developer replenisher, it's been made by Sino Promise for years.
If I could go back to 1965, when my Dad and I were developing Verichrome 126, in Dad's 1941 Elkay bakelite tank, and said " Dad, you know China is going to make Dektol" he wouldn't have believed it.
All Kodak branded film is manufactured by Eastman Kodak in Rochester, NY, USA.
The marketing and distribution rights for the still films are still owned by Kodak Alaris.
The marketing and distribution rights for the motion picture films are owned by Eastman Kodak.
Any Kodak branded still film you buy goes from the manufacturer (Eastman Kodak), through the main distributor (Kodak Alaris), through a myriad of more local distributors (sometimes more than one) to the retailer and then to you.
Any Kodak branded motion picture film you buy goes from the manufacturer (Eastman Kodak), through the main distributor (Eastman Kodak again), and either directly to the end user, or through a myriad of more local distributors (sometimes more than one) to the retailer and then to you.
Kodak Alaris recently divested the Kodak colour photo paper, lab related equipment and photo chemical business they had been operating for years, after it, along with the still film marketing and distribution business, came to them as part of the Eastman Kodak bankruptcy.
Polaroid, Honeywell, and many others sell their names for royalty payments from other manufacturers who actually make the product. Trade name familiarity sells. Trump uses it all the time similarly. Many of the buildings with his name on it are built and owned by others. He gets royalties. However, I doubt if we'll ever see Trump Plus ASA 100 film.And Ilford is actually just a brand name owned by Harman Technology Ltd., who themselves are owned by an investment fund.
None of the Ilford branded chemicals are actually manufactured by them.
Despite my historical loyalty for Kodak, I'm happy to recommend Ilford as well.
I have good hopes for ADOX as well, but they are very small.
I say this just to point out that you will find it frustrating if you try to base your purchasing decisions on a vision of an industry that has all of their products made by the entities whose names are on the package.
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