Tiny bubbles on 110 film... developing issue?

[Huss]

Just got a roll of Lomo 110 Orca B&W film developed by a local lab.
These 'spirit spheres' (makes it sound nice!) are through out the roll. Is this a developing issue from the lab? Or film defect?
Film was fresh. Shot on a Rollei A110.

 

[nascarfann]

I think it's a film defect. This guy had problems with those also https://austerityphoto.co.uk/holy-lomo-moly-the-curious-case-of-light-spots-on-lomography-110-film/ . I have had those on the older generation Impossible project sx-70 film.

 

[WilmarcoImaging]

Nice image. Looks like chemical splatter or drying spots.

 

[Huss]

I think it's a film defect. This guy had problems with those also https://austerityphoto.co.uk/holy-lomo-moly-the-curious-case-of-light-spots-on-lomography-110-film/ . I have had those on the older generation Impossible project sx-70 film.

Thank you for that link. That is exactly what it is, light leaks through the backing paper. Guess backing paper issues aren't just limited to Kodak and Ilford!

 

[TheGreatGasMaskMan]

So I'm not the only one to have this happen, thought it was a camera thing.
The bubbles varied from image to image, but this one has it the most off this roll.

Now, this 2000 expired superia 200 was exposed in the same camera...

And here's a Tiger Roll off a vivitar tele 603. same as the lobster, I got spots and the amount and patterns were all different

And, I even had the same thing happen to a lesser extent on a peacock roll, but I ran that through a camera that would not advance the film properly, so I'm not sharing any of those images.

I'd be interested to know what this all is. I don't know how much 110 I'll shoot in the future, but it's interesting to know someone else is experiencing the same thing.

 

[Sirius Glass]

They look like air bells.

 

[foc]

So I'm not the only one to have this happen, thought it was a camera thing.
The bubbles varied from image to image, but this one has it the most off this roll.
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Now, this 2000 expired superia 200 was exposed in the same camera...
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And here's a Tiger Roll off a vivitar tele 603. same as the lobster, I got spots and the amount and patterns were all different
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And, I even had the same thing happen to a lesser extent on a peacock roll, but I ran that through a camera that would not advance the film properly, so I'm not sharing any of those images.

I'd be interested to know what this all is. I don't know how much 110 I'll shoot in the future, but it's interesting to know someone else is experiencing the same thing.

That looks to me like backing paper sticking to the film. I have seen this many a time( in the late 1970's) it was usually cause by poor storage.

 

[mjork]

I've seen this a lot with Lomo 110 film. It happened when shooting outdoors in bright light. The problem went away after I put some gaffer tape on the frame counter window of the camera. This suggests the problem is indeed tiny holes in the backing paper.

 

[MattKing]

Does anyone else think of the musical refrain "Tiny Bubbles" whenever they see the title to this thread?
I too would guess that this is a backing paper problem.

 

[Huss]

I've seen this a lot with Lomo 110 film. It happened when shooting outdoors in bright light. The problem went away after I put some gaffer tape on the frame counter window of the camera. This suggests the problem is indeed tiny holes in the backing paper.

Someone from the Flickr group is being kind enough to send me some red gel filter material. It's the stuff that makes the red window film counter on old 120 cameras. Apparently she uses it for this exact reason - to prevent pinhole light leaks with Lomo 110 film.
I have to say I am very happy with the quality of the film itself - both the Orca B&W and the Tigrt colour stock. But I would prefer not to see the tiny bubbles!

 

[Huss]

Does anyone else think of the musical refrain "Tiny Bubbles" whenever they see the title to this thread?

Nice job picking up on the reference!

 

[Ces1um]

Just got a roll of Lomo 110 Orca B&W film developed by a local lab.
These 'spirit spheres' (makes it sound nice!) are through out the roll. Is this a developing issue from the lab? Or film defect?
Film was fresh. Shot on a Rollei A110.

I'm betting this was the lomography film's fault. They have a lot of problems with pinhole defects through the backing paper. Cover the frame counter window with black tape and see if you still get these spots. I know with my pentax auto 110 I had this exact issue and a bit of electrical tape completely resolved it.

 

[Huss]

I'm betting this was the lomography film's fault. They have a lot of problems with pinhole defects through the backing paper. Cover the frame counter window with black tape and see if you still get these spots. I know with my pentax auto 110 I had this exact issue and a bit of electrical tape completely resolved it.

Thanks. I'm going to use red filter gel to cover it, so I can still see the exposure count.

 

[MattKing]

Thanks. I'm going to use red filter gel to cover it, so I can still see the exposure count.

Which may result in you seeing Tiny Red Bubbles.
The red colour of those windows was most likely a historical leftover from the days before panchromatic film.

 

[Ces1um]

Which may result in you seeing Tiny Red Bubbles.
The red colour of those windows was most likely a historical leftover from the days before panchromatic film.

I'd have to agree. if you took a 120 camera with a red window, then poked holes in the paper backing of your film you'd still have those little spots after you developed it. Red plastic doesn't protect exposed film through flawed backing paper. Red plastic protects film with intact healthy backing paper.

 

[Huss]

Good points, thank you gents.

 

[captain ZZM]

Someone from the Flickr group is being kind enough to send me some red gel filter material. It's the stuff that makes the red window film counter on old 120 cameras. Apparently she uses it for this exact reason - to prevent pinhole light leaks with Lomo 110 film.
I have to say I am very happy with the quality of the film itself - both the Orca B&W and the Tigrt colour stock. But I would prefer not to see the tiny bubbles!

Yes, almost all 126 and 110 cameras didn't have red for the window, it just a historical legacy for roll film camera.

 

[peoplemerge]

I shoot on the same camera, same film, same results, can’t wait to try keeping the little window out of direct sunlight. Thanks, guys!!