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Sjixxxy

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How long is the shelf life of Kentmere Fiber papers? I still have like 75 sheets left in the box I purchased two years ago (Still branded under Luminos), and don't want to order more at this time, but I also don't want to think that my tests for dead chemcials may also include dying paper, and have to place a second order for paper. So anyways, here is what I just did. I'm lead to believe the paper is fine yet, but dont' want any surprizes. So if anything jump out at you of being an indicator of paper going bad, do speak.

Was testing some Ethold LPD that was mixed from stock 2 years ago, didn't really expect a win here, but was worth trying. FYI, I've always gotten full development in 90 seconds with this combo.

1.) Ran test strip. 0.5 second intervals. 90 seconds, very very dim image. Kind of purple pink in tone.
2.) Increased step time to 2 seconds each. Still a very very dim image.
-2a) Suddenly believed I may have mixed the develop from 4-year old stock that I never tossed.
-2B) Grabbed a newer 2-year bottle of stock, poured some right into the tray on the dim image. Got a really neat black sunburst effect on the paper.
3.) Emptied the tray and refilled with the newer stock. Processed another test strip at 0.5 intervals. Image was much, but no blacks, and splotchy devlopment, still kind of purple/pink in color.
4) Grabbed a piece of trimmed paper, and in open light developed it. It took 90 seconds to hit full black, but pretty much right up the the end the tone was still splotchy. Within the last ten seconds, it evened out.

Does everything here seem to be the effect of a weak developer? I've never actually used a box of paper longer then a few months after I purchased it, so I'm not really sure what it would look like if it started turning on me, and the box doesn't have an expriation date printed on it.
 

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Before comments can go further you have to report the results from FRESH developer.
 

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For b&w paper if the paper is only two years old it's unlikely to be 'dying' unless it was fogged at some point (I use Kentmere and have some going back at least that far).
If you can, keep your paper in the fridge and that will increase it's life.

I've used b&w paper that's over ten years old before now (unrefridgerated).
 

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Sjixxxy said:
Was testing some Ethol LPD that was mixed from stock 2 years ago
To what purpose? This stuff should have been tossed 3 months after mixing whether used or not. Chemicals are cheap compared to paper and film.
 
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I've used old paper as well. I had a box of 11x14 kodabrome? i think, 250 sheets exp. date was 1977.

Must have sat for years in a hot warehouse because it comes out with a slightly grey cast. Even the border of the print, which is unexposed is a light grey. Slight overexposure, a little Benzotriazole in the developer and a LIGHT bleaching with pot. ferricyanide and it looks great.

Ethol LPD as stock in a full bottle will last a while. My experience is about 1.5 years.
I also reuse the working solution for up to 6 months, sometimes longer. I use it at 1:1 and top off with 1:1 to bring the volume back up. I love the stuff, it is cheap and lasts forever.

I'd try some fresh developer too, though. Also some fresh stop and fix. Splotchyness can sometimes come from contaminated developer/stop and fix.
Atleast i've found. Sorry, i've had a lot of coffee this morning..
-phil
 

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I'll second the above concerning the longevity of LPD. To dispose of it in three months or so would really be a waste. I am still working out of a gallon jug that I mixed up in Dec '04. Good as the first day!!!! I also have a tendency to let set in open trays for a couple days. Still works. Maybe it should be called Jeep rathr than LPD.
jim
 
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