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Are not made by Fuji. I'm talking about the cameras made by Fuji, not the film itself.
You said Fuji was catering to people who want a real photo, who want to see magic develop in their hand, and I said that, if that were the case, Fuji would be indulging a curiosity - because you had characterized it as such.
They sell the majority of this film to Asian kids who use it for fun
Are those improvements? They are the very thing I’m talking about.If you don't like the design, just choose one of the instax cameras with a conventional or retro design, like the SQ6, Neo 90 Classic, Mini 40 or instax 300 wide.
Very different designs for very different tastes are offered.
Best regards,
Henning
But now, as I'm sure a great many photographers are aware, everyone with a cell phone thinks they can take photos that are just as good as a professional.
So, if they keep buying something that generates a clearly inferior result, it's because they expect it to.
Are those improvements?
Perfectly in situations the 4th layer was needed for?
The only purpose of the 4th layer is to act as a filter against fluorescent light. Where you dont have this type of lightspectrum the 4th layer does nothing.
Did or did not X-tra 400 have a green tint after the 4th layer was removed?
Henning, what I wanted to point out is that the simple cameras are already sold at a price so high that the profit Fuji makes on them does not represent a motivation to produce better cameras.
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It is about profit. Selling a cheaply made camera at the maximum price the user is willing to spend is more profitable than selling a better quality camera
Those are much more expensive to be produced but the selling price can not be levered up to the sky.
Me e.g. would not invest money in such a camera for the simple fact that the film format is too tiny in my opinion. (I am not a stamp collector.) An entirely other story would have been for me with the packfilm format.
Perfectly in situations the 4th layer was needed for?
The only purpose of the 4th layer is to act as a filter against fluorescent light.
Your definition of completely different is liberal. I’ll give that. ;-).Helge, have you already forgotten what you have written just some hours ago?
You have complained about the "Teletubby" design of instax cameras. I have just demonstrated that there are several instax cameras with a completely different design and look.
Not more, not less.
Best regards,
Henning
If you took out of the extendable lens of the 300 model and the flash, a third element in the lens and just an f8 aperture, would be paid for easily.It is about profit. Selling a cheaply made camera at the maximum price the user is willing to spend is more profitable than selling a better quality camera (means more expensive to produce) that Fuji could not sell for much more money than he already does with these simple boxes.
That is a general statement, and not focussed on Fujifilm cameras.
No, because most users don't consider it as just a "curiosity". It is much more for them. Having a tactile real photo in your hands, having the possibility to make friends happy by giving them a nice present, having long term memories captured on a real photo, having the possibility to improve your prof. wedding photography business (weddings are a very big market for instax) etc. is much much more than just a "curiosity".
For me, this is the point where the “good enough” factor enters the game. I could add that, maybe, the perceived lesser quality (which is arguable) brings back memories of childhood or something. Some film aficionados say that film has a different “warmth” that digital lacks.
1. Those photographers who want a better quality camera would also be willing to pay a higher price. None of them would expect that such an improved camera would be sold on the extremely low price level of the current cameras. So the higher production costs would be compensated by the higher selling price.
2. Fujifilm could expand with them to further markets, like photography enthusiasts and professionals. For prof. wedding photography such improved cameras would make much sense. In the last decade I have used my Instax Wide on every wedding I have shot as main photographer. An excellent addition to standard film. The couples and guests have always been very excited by the results. With a better camera this business field could be extended significantly, and I could do even much more on weddings with it, satiesfying the clients even more.
3. The better camera models would sell in lower volumes, but the users of these cameras would buy much more instant film on average for it compared to the standard user of the cheaper models. A wedding photographer who is using it would on average buy more than hundred packs per year.
Don with all due respect (of which there is a genuine and sizeable amount), what are you really arguing here?I was talking about Fuji cameras. I was only talking about Fuji cameras. Conversation - even argument - takes place in a context and is normally about something.
I'm glad you have the numbers. Check how many people are in Asia as compared with the rest of the world.
Wedding photography, at this point, is a curiosity.
The whole "good enough" thing is fine, and the other aspect of the instant photo (especially a blurry, overly contrasty, or blown out one) is that it's "quaint". People are not going to look at it like it's a serious thing, because they assume it's not capable of being a serious thing.
Hennig - are you shooting weddings 100% film with no digital backup? Most people would be very nervous about that, at this point in time. Why do you suppose that is?
Also, why are you listing reasons for Fuji to make a better Instax camera? I thought you were arguing against me because the Instax cameras are already generating perfect, magical, little gems that people are oh-so-pleased with? You do realize, this entire time, I have only been arguing that the Fuji Instax cameras are junk and Fuji is fully aware of it?
Or do you just like saying "You're wrong"? It can have a sonorous quality.
This Instax squabble is all well & good,
but where's my 5x7 film?
People are not going to look at it like it's a serious thing,
why do you think (it seems, at least) that people always want “serious” things?
what are you really arguing here?
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