I have a 1.4XE that I use on my 100 CFI, 180 CFI and 350 CF but only occasionally on the latter so the two lenses I am not interested in because of that are the 150mm and 250mm. I find on its own and with either B&W film or conversion to B&W from a D-back, the 350 CF holds up really well if you nail the focus which is truly critical. It can get color fringing in color images which is what the 350SA solves completely among other things.
I make a lot of mountain landscape images living where I do, so I really love the 350mm for that purpose and will likely budget for the 350SA next year. But either way, using a 350mm with a Flexbody helps quite a bit in merging different focal points in a scene.
One thing I got for my 350mm 5.6 CF is an aftermarket tripod collar to help balance it and take some of the stress off the lens mount. But that was several years ago and now they seem to have vanished. I suppose it is possible to adapt one from another lens by shimming it.
Decided to do a non-scientific test today and compare 250mm Superachromat against 180mm CFE with 1.4XE and also 2xMutar on Canon 5DIV. Scene was about 4 meters away. Here are my conclusions:
Overall, I'm mighty impressed with 180mm CFE with or without teleconverters.
- 180mm with 1.4XE resolves the same detail as 250mm SA. The image quality is virtually the same, unless shooting high contrast scene where LOCA is visible on 180mm.
- 180mm with 2xMutar resolves more detail than 250mm SA. Again, the only issue is LOCA on 180mm if high contrast scene.
- Shooting 180mm wide open at f/4 with either teleconverter produces outstanding results. Shooting at f/8 helps a little, but f/4 is already amazing.
- I did not compare 250SA with teleconverter attached in this test, but did in the past, and both teleconverters resulted in increased detail. My guess is that 250SA with 1.4XE is probably equal to 180mm with 2xMutar.
Decided to do a non-scientific test today and compare 250mm Superachromat against 180mm CFE with 1.4XE and also 2xMutar on Canon 5DIV. Scene was about 4 meters away. Here are my conclusions:
Overall, I'm mighty impressed with 180mm CFE with or without teleconverters.
- 180mm with 1.4XE resolves the same detail as 250mm SA. The image quality is virtually the same, unless shooting high contrast scene where LOCA is visible on 180mm.
- 180mm with 2xMutar resolves more detail than 250mm SA. Again, the only issue is LOCA on 180mm if high contrast scene.
- Shooting 180mm wide open at f/4 with either teleconverter produces outstanding results. Shooting at f/8 helps a little, but f/4 is already amazing.
- I did not compare 250SA with teleconverter attached in this test, but did in the past, and both teleconverters resulted in increased detail. My guess is that 250SA with 1.4XE is probably equal to 180mm with 2xMutar.
One thing I got for my 350mm 5.6 CF is an aftermarket tripod collar to help balance it and take some of the stress off the lens mount
I have asked about it in a thread but no responses. And am yet to find even a photo of where the collar was put on the camera, since technically there is no "right" place for it.
Do you mount it just in front of the first "obstruction" on the lens barrel?
I started this thread a while ago and it has been interesting to hear what other people have done and chosen to do for long lens options.
I have a 250mm (non-SA), the 180CFi and a 150 CFi and I also have the 1.4x and 2x mutar TCs and have decided to not get a longer lens since I probably won't use it too terribly much (and frankly, absolute sharpness isn't really all that important to me), so I think the TCs will be sufficient.
I just got back from a trip into Utah and found I used the 100mm, 180mm and then the 60mm the most. I pulled out the 250mm for a few shots and converted the 180mm+2xTC for some shots. I also made a handful of shots with the 38mm. I even used the 80mm a few times, and at one point, wished I had the 120mm macro. The 50mm never got used, but I could have pulled that instead of the 60mm probably. All B&W shooting. Mostly Delta 400 and a couple of Delta 3200.
---Michael
How do they know how to do that?
Budget approved, super clean example of the 350SA purchased for a reasonable price. I can’t wait to get it and put it to good use.I have a 1.4XE that I use on my 100 CFI, 180 CFI and 350 CF but only occasionally on the latter so the two lenses I am not interested in because of that are the 150mm and 250mm. I find on its own and with either B&W film or conversion to B&W from a D-back, the 350 CF holds up really well if you nail the focus which is truly critical. It can get color fringing in color images which is what the 350SA solves completely among other things.
I make a lot of mountain landscape images living where I do, so I really love the 350mm for that purpose and will likely budget for the 350SA next year. But either way, using a 350mm with a Flexbody helps quite a bit in merging different focal points in a scene.
One thing I got for my 350mm 5.6 CF is an aftermarket tripod collar to help balance it and take some of the stress off the lens mount. But that was several years ago and now they seem to have vanished. I suppose it is possible to adapt one from another lens by shimming it.
I've been using my 501C with the leses I have for a few months now and I'm pretty sure that I would like a lens longer than the 250mm that I have... I seem to have a vision for a bit tighter crop than it produces.
So, the obvious solution is to buy another lens... but this is where the options come into play.
The 350mm focal length is probably viable and the 500 seems to be pretty much out of the question due to size...
The uber-expensive 350mm SA isn't going to happen, so that leaves a CF Tele Tessar probably.
However, another option would be to buy a 1.4x TC for the 250mm lens. This would be smaller and maybe optically nearly as good?
This is what I want to know options on ... I have the 250mm CFi lens and it seems pretty good, but I wonder how well it will be with a 1.4x TC on it. What if I spent the cash on a 250mm SA lens and then used a 1.4x TC on that? Is that likely to be sharper than the 350mm TT CF lens? Price-wise, I may be able to come in pretty well to go this approach and if it produces a better 250mm and also a better 350mm while also being smaller in the bag then that wll feel like a bit of a win.
---Michael
I've been using my 501C with the leses I have for a few months now and I'm pretty sure that I would like a lens longer than the 250mm that I have... I seem to have a vision for a bit tighter crop than it produces.
So, the obvious solution is to buy another lens... but this is where the options come into play.
The 350mm focal length is probably viable and the 500 seems to be pretty much out of the question due to size...
The uber-expensive 350mm SA isn't going to happen, so that leaves a CF Tele Tessar probably.
However, another option would be to buy a 1.4x TC for the 250mm lens. This would be smaller and maybe optically nearly as good?
This is what I want to know options on ... I have the 250mm CFi lens and it seems pretty good, but I wonder how well it will be with a 1.4x TC on it. What if I spent the cash on a 250mm SA lens and then used a 1.4x TC on that? Is that likely to be sharper than the 350mm TT CF lens? Price-wise, I may be able to come in pretty well to go this approach and if it produces a better 250mm and also a better 350mm while also being smaller in the bag then that wll feel like a bit of a win.
---Michael
As I have posted often, I can hand hold the 250mm lens but I must use a tripod for the 500mm lens due to the swing weight and the 1/[focal length in mm] second is the longest hand held shutter because the fastest shutter speed is 1/500 second. I cannot predict how the 350mm lens will handle but it does have a built in tripod mount.
On revisiting this topic, I have gotten a lot of use of my 250mm lens and do not get a lot of use of my 500mm lens. I think if I had a 350mm lens, that I would use it much more than the 500mm lens.
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