Wanted to write a lengthy post here, but decided against it. To make a long story short: Had you asked the guy and the lady in a friendly way, you might have gotten the perfect shot. Talking people into stuff like this, however, is an art in itself. If you like photographs like this, you've got to learn that talking thing just like mastering your camera.
Paul.
Point well taken. I thought it to be extremely news worthy.
What made this shot news worthy? An older woman sitting at the same table in a town library as an African American, do you have a time machine? Certainly not breaking or hard news, even as a feature story I dont see the point? From an artistic point of view I can see some merit but not as news.
Paul.
Point well taken. I thought it to be extremely news worthy.
What made this shot news worthy? An older woman sitting at the same table in a town library as an African American, do you have a time machine? Certainly not breaking or hard news, even as a feature story I dont see the point? From an artistic point of view I can see some merit but not as news.
Paul.
Point well taken. I thought it to be extremely news worthy.
What made this shot news worthy? An older woman sitting at the same table in a town library as an African American, do you have a time machine? Certainly not breaking or hard news, even as a feature story I dont see the point? From an artistic point of view I can see some merit but not as news.
Paul.
Yes I do have a time machine. One that has been documented and cannot be changed no matter how hard we as human beings try. HISTORY.
Had I captured the image, it would have been a reflection of both the past and present with glimpses of what hopefully is to come in the future; racial equality. I live in Little Rock, Arkansas. I do not know if you are aware of it, but we just celebrated the 50th anniversary of the Little Rock Nine. The story made headline news during the time because nine black kids were denied entrance into Little Rock Central High School because of the color of their skin. These events, how ever sad they may be live on through images captured by photographers, making them history. It is by history that we are able to travel back in time to learn from both positive and negative moments assuring that we better ourselves as a society.
Sadly, many of the beliefs that prevailed during that time are still prominent, but not to the same extent. Things are much better now, as evident by the image had I captured it. As I stated earlier, the two of them were wearing clothes from the 1960's and the 1970's. During this time blacks and whites did not intermingle much or at all for the most part. These were time periods when racial tensions were at their highest. To see the pair of them sitting so closely in 2008, but dressed in clothes from the 1960's and 1970's was ironic. Under no circumstances would a white woman in the 1960' sit so closely to a black man in a public library or anywhere else for the most part. They would have been segregated.
The picture would have been a merger of three different eras; 1960-1970-2008, an essay narratively reflecting the HUMAN DYNAMICS OF CHANGE in as Southern State marred by racial inequality in its much storied past. The black man and the white woman were not a reflection of race, but rather a reflection of two eras of racial inequality in the past, but has and is currently showing growth and progress in the present.
There are those in the world who do not understand the role that history plays on the HUMAN CONDITION and its many manifestations, or simply choose to ignore it. They tend to solely focus on how they feel it should be rather than how it has been in the past or is currently. Rather than expose it for what it is, they tend to act as though everything in the world runs smoothly, as if no problems exist or ever have.
History whether positive or negative is only a myth; a mere urban legend without proper documentation by those who have no biases. Is it not our charge as photographers, amateurs and pros alike to document the Human Condition and all of its manifestations in all its rawness as a means of bringing it to the masses. Can we call ourselves photographers were we to allow our lives to be governed by such false principalities; only photographing what we deem to be positive or good?
I think not. By doing so she/or he will have reduced themselves to someone who lugs a camera around capturing images that are merritless. Nothing less; nothing more; for their is no in between.
Do you now see the point?
Jamusu.
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I have to agree with Paul.
The "we are all together, we are one" shots stopped being newsworthy in the 1960s
I took this one in 1979 on a visit to SF - and it was then, and is now, quite banal.
BTW: Wasn't the K-chrome 64 great? I scanned this a year ago (so almost a thirty year old slide) in RAW. I had to downsize it and convert to web-based JPEG to post here - but still the K-chrome quality remains!
Paul.
Yes I do have a time machine. One that has been documented and cannot be changed no matter how hard we as human beings try. HISTORY.
Had I captured the image, it would have been a reflection of both the past and present with glimpses of what hopefully is to come in the future; racial equality. I live in Little Rock, Arkansas. I do not know if you are aware of it, but we just celebrated the 50th anniversary of the Little Rock Nine. The story made headline news during the time because nine black kids were denied entrance into Little Rock Central High School because of the color of their skin. These events, how ever sad they may be live on through images captured by photographers, making them history. It is by history that we are able to travel back in time to learn from both positive and negative moments assuring that we better ourselves as a society.
Sadly, many of the beliefs that prevailed during that time are still prominent, but not to the same extent. Things are much better now, as evident by the image had I captured it. As I stated earlier, the two of them were wearing clothes from the 1960's and the 1970's. During this time blacks and whites did not intermingle much or at all for the most part. These were time periods when racial tensions were at their highest. To see the pair of them sitting so closely in 2008, but dressed in clothes from the 1960's and 1970's was ironic. Under no circumstances would a white woman in the 1960' sit so closely to a black man in a public library or anywhere else for the most part. They would have been segregated.
The picture would have been a merger of three different eras; 1960-1970-2008, an essay narratively reflecting the HUMAN DYNAMICS OF CHANGE in as Southern State marred by racial inequality in its much storied past. The black man and the white woman were not a reflection of race, but rather a reflection of two eras of racial inequality in the past, but has and is currently showing growth and progress in the present.
There are those in the world who do not understand the role that history plays on the HUMAN CONDITION and its many manifestations, or simply choose to ignore it. They tend to solely focus on how they feel it should be rather than how it has been in the past or is currently. Rather than expose it for what it is, they tend to act as though everything in the world runs smoothly, as if no problems exist or ever have.
History whether positive or negative is only a myth; a mere urban legend without proper documentation by those who have no biases. Is it not our charge as photographers, amateurs and pros alike to document the Human Condition and all of its manifestations in all its rawness as a means of bringing it to the masses. Can we call ourselves photographers were we to allow our lives to be governed by such false principalities; only photographing what we deem to be positive or good?
I think not. By doing so she/or he will have reduced themselves to someone who lugs a camera around capturing images that are merritless. Nothing less; nothing more; for their is no in between.
Do you now see the point?
Jamusu.
It is an essay and a social comment but not news, as such you need to at least inform the subjects of the your intention, and perhaps a model release as well.
quote=copake ham
I have to agree with Paul.
The "we are all together, we are one" shots stopped being newsworthy in the 1960s
I took this one in 1979 on a visit to SF - and it was then, and is now, quite banal.
BTW: Wasn't the K-chrome 64 great? I scanned this a year ago (so almost a thirty year old slide) in RAW. I had to downsize it and convert to web-based JPEG to post here - but still the K-chrome quality remains!
quote=copake ham
I have to agree with Paul.
The "we are all together, we are one" shots stopped being newsworthy in the 1960s
I took this one in 1979 on a visit to SF - and it was then, and is now, quite banal.
BTW: Wasn't the K-chrome 64 great? I scanned this a year ago (so almost a thirty year old slide) in RAW. I had to downsize it and convert to web-based JPEG to post here - but still the K-chrome quality remains!
To put things into a photographic metaphor - you are still looking at society in "black and white". But these days, it's a colorful mosaic. And as society becomes increasingly diverse - you need a more complex scorecard than the one you've been using.
I find this statement interesting. I question one person instructing another as to what their view of society should be. Why must Jamusu find a "more complex scorecard"? I would think that as photographers we would be encouraging each other to shoot according to their own views of society and art, not telling them which views they should have. You really have to take into account that a person's views on society are highly unique to their individual life experiences.
Let's not pass judgment on people for their views on society.
- CJ
copake_ham said:As Paul said, it's practically a "set shot" that you should ask for a model release!
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