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jdef said:Maybe the reason that technique is so prevalent for so many of us, is that there is an artistic void in our work. Discussing/debating materials and techniques accounts for the vast majority of discussion here, with the occassional thread on "seeing" or "vision", but virtually no discussion of content or meaning. I think the medium itself is stagnating and lacks any real visionaries. I think that realism, commercialism, and duplicability have had a moderating effect on photographers and photography. It is my hope that digital imaging will liberate photography the way that photography liberated painting. Use digital technology for commercial, scientific and consumer applications, and leave photography to artists.
I have gotten to a point that 99% of what I see is dull, boring, and uninspiring. That is true of my work and the work of others. I indicated to Lee Carmichael several weeks ago that I am sick to death of looking at pictures of things (people, places, buildings, peppers, Yosemite, mountains and the rest of that stuff) whether those are mine or others.
I think the medium itself is stagnating and lacks any real visionaries. I think that realism, commercialism, and duplicability have had a moderating effect on photographers and photography.
blansky said:Donald I hate to say this, but it looks like it is time for you to put your cameras away for a while.
Book yourself a flight to some tropical destination, park your ass on the beach and reread Zen Mind Beginner Mind.
You are burnnnnnned out. Classic case. Seen it a million times.
The other thing is, pardon the expression, you need to get laid.
You need an attitude adjustment and a change of perspective.
It'll make things right again. You're just a little out of sync with the universe.
It's a damn lucky thing I was able to hear your cry for help.
I'll send you a bill for the advice when you get back. By the way, there is a money back guarantee.
Later,
Michael
jdef said:Maybe the reason that technique is so prevalent for so many of us, is that there is an artistic void in our work. Discussing/debating materials and techniques accounts for the vast majority of discussion here, with the occassional thread on "seeing" or "vision", but virtually no discussion of content or meaning. I think the medium itself is stagnating and lacks any real visionaries. I think that realism, commercialism, and duplicability have had a moderating effect on photographers and photography. It is my hope that digital imaging will liberate photography the way that photography liberated painting. Use digital technology for commercial, scientific and consumer applications, and leave photography to artists.
Michael A. Smith said:Recommendation: if you fully understand what you are photographing, do not bother. You will not learn anything, you will only be making a "good photograph." If, on the other hand, you do not fully understand what your camera's lens is seeing, you might have something there that will push you beyond where you think you could go, visually.make the photograph. Personal growth can ensue.
But the real bottom line is to enjoy the process; "Pleasure in the process" (to quote myself) "is ultimately what it is all about." Just go out and have a good time and don't worry about all the rest of it.
blansky said:The photographs with "soul" that we all try to achieve can only come, in my opinion, when we leave the technical behind. Our minds get too caught in technical perfection to allow us to be free to collect the magic around us. We need to free our minds and let things come to us.
Donald Miller said:"Those who say do not know. Those who know do not say".
Aggie said:Donald Miller said:"Those who say do not know. Those who know do not say".
I take exception to this quote. How would knowledge ever be shared if no one ever spoke. To say that those that speak do not know is trite. Seems it would be better to learn from debates. Heated they may become, but they give many a chance to see differing view points. What is sad is this medium does not give face to face contact of the person posting and what is truly in their mind at the time. I may not agree with things that are said, but I watch most often and see how the debate unfolds. When clarification needs to be made, hopefully it would be done in a civil manner. Too many are and I am no exception are fast to lash back.
Benjamin Franklin had it right. He said, "Fart proudly!" (there is even a book out titled that with a compilation of his early writings) It is worse to restrain ourselves from speech than to voice and understand what the other thinks. My step Daughter sent me a cartoon a couple of days ago that adds to this notion. the punch line under the man in agony was, "Go ahead and fart. If you don't it travels up the spine to the brain where the shitty ideas come from." (excuse the bad word) So let the debates rage, just keep it civil. Ask questions if you need clarification. If you have no questions or nothing to contribute, just read or skip the whole thread.
Aggie said:Benjamin Franklin had it right. He said, "Fart proudly!" (there is even a book out titled that with a compilation of his early writings) It is worse to restrain ourselves from speech than to voice and understand what the other thinks.
Donald Miller said:"Those who say do not know. Those who know do not say".
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