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That sounds like a great find, I've never heard of it. How is the print quality?

I'm curious if any of the photographs appeared in any of the photographer's later monographs or if they are exclusive to this publication/exhibition.

Print quality is good — not exceptional, but quite good in many cases — for the black and white photos. For some of the color photographs, Eggleston's come to mind, it's adequate.

Many of the Robert Adams photographs can be found in his monographs. I haven't seen the Eggleston photos in the books I have, but I have only three. The Papageorge seem to be from his At the Beach series (second LA trip in 1978) recently reissued by Stanley Barker Books. I don't recall seeing the Stephen Shore photos in Uncommon Places (I didn't check, will do later). They might be in American Surfaces or Selected Works 1973-1981, neither of which I have (D'oh!). In an interview with David Campany, Shore stated that there was "close to seven hundred" photos from the Uncommon Places project he "found interesting", meaning he took many more, so these might not appear elsewhere.

The others I can't tell. They might have done some of the photos for this project but re-published them later in a monograph, exhibition catalog or retrospective. I wouldn't be surprised if this were the case for Mary Ellen Mark and Elliot Erwitt, for example, who, as opposed to photographers such as Baltz, have had many books of their works published.

It's a great book to flip through. The quality of imagination and renewal of the photographic eye in what is just a sample of a new generation of photographers (except for some older ones such as Callahan) is pretty amazing. You get a sense that American photography is at a turning point, that it was breaking from (or at least renewing) the various aesthetics that had dominated in the 60s — the photojournalistic approach of the mass movements (the Vietnam war, civil rights, etc.), the post-The Americans-style street/documentary photography (Diane Arbus had died seven years earlier, Garry Winogrand had by them done most of his major works, and others, like Bruce Davidson, were already well-established photographers), or the Ansel Adams/Minor White sphere of influence in landscape photography (which tended to veer into pure abstraction with the latter).

In other words, I can imagine being a young photographer in the late 70s, running into this and being quite exited about what was happening, especially with the photographs of Lewis Baltz and John Gossage, which were unbelievable audacious.
 

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Princeton UP just published the personal journal of Minor White:


"One of the most significant unpublished texts in the history of photography, Memorable Fancies is the daybooks of Minor White, an artist who played a leading role in shaping the practice of photography in postwar America. Begun in the early 1930s and taking its name from a series of dialogues in William Blake’s The Marriage of Heaven and Hell, these writings are part diary, part photography manual, and part aesthetic treatise. Minor White, Memorable Fancies presents this work in its entirety for the first time, offering an intimate look at the ideas and interior life of one of the most important photographers of the twentieth century."
 

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New book by Danny Lyon

 

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"Floridas", Anastasia Samoylova & Walker Evans, Steidl. Probably the best photo book I've seen in recent years. And Walker Evans could paint! Who knew?
 

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I received this for my birthday.

I haven't combed through all of the stuff yet, (there's a decent pile of supplementary materials tucked into a folder inside the back cover) but I like it so far.

 

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As predicted 🙄 I fear this is going to be another Steidl book that never sees the light of day...

In this case, I'm thinking copyright issues.
 
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In this case, I'm thinking copyright issues.

Could be, although Steidl already re-issued this book back in 2013 so I'd think they would have resolved any copyright issues by now.

 

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Could be, although Steidl already re-issued this book back in 2013 so I'd think they would have resolved any copyright issues by now.


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From the 2009 printing. Perhaps one of the parties is slower to cooperate this time around. But we’ve seen these kinds of multi-year delays from Steidl before.
 

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From the 2009 printing. Perhaps one of the parties is slower to cooperate this time around.

Hilla Becher, Lewis Baltz and Henry Wessel Jr. have all died since the 2009 printing (and maybe others, didn't check all the names). Maybe the problem — if it is a copyright problem — comes from the right holders.
 

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One would think that an experienced publisher like Steidl would have taken care of any copyright issues before proceeding with publication.
 

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One would think that an experienced publisher like Steidl would have taken care of any copyright issues before proceeding with publication.

Me too. I'm just throwing out one hypothesis out there. There are certainly others.
 

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Hilla Becher, Lewis Baltz and Henry Wessel Jr. have all died since the 2009 printing (and maybe others, didn't check all the names). Maybe the problem — if it is a copyright problem — comes from the right holders.

I had contacted Steidl about their Wessel Jr. reissue programme, which appeared to be ongoing as of 2023, but they never replied, and nothing is available anywhere by him on Steidl (apart from the beautiful Waikiki, which I own already).

They seem to get things started only to then abandon them?

What a shame.
 

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I had contacted Steidl about their Wessel Jr. reissue programme, which appeared to be ongoing as of 2023, but they never replied, and nothing is available anywhere by him on Steidl (apart from the beautiful Waikiki, which I own already).

They seem to get things started only to then abandon them?

What a shame.
It just doesn't seem very professional of Steidl to offer a book for sale (on Amazon at least) if it is not in the pipeline. I have noticed some of their books are not up to what I would consider great quality (particurlarly the choice of paper stock). Have they gotten in over their head, taken on more than they can handle properly?
 

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It just doesn't seem very professional of Steidl to offer a book for sale (on Amazon at least) if it is not in the pipeline. I have noticed some of their books are not up to what I would consider great quality (particurlarly the choice of paper stock). Have they gotten in over their head, taken on more than they can handle properly?

To be fair I have pre-ordered some books from their website, and they did honour the sale when those books came out (they did come out, one was the beautiful "Dublin" by Evelin Hofer).
 

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One would think that an experienced publisher like Steidl would have taken care of any copyright issues before proceeding with publication.

The rights they obtained at the time may have been intentionally limited by the rights holders to a particular duration or number of editions.
 

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The rights they obtained at the time may have been intentionally limited by the rights holders to a particular duration or number of editions.

Once again, not very professional. Or stereotypically German. if this is the case Steidl should have cleared everything before announcing the book and offering it for sale on Amazon.
 

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if this is the case Steidl should have cleared everything before announcing the book and offering it for sale on Amazon.

Undoubtedly.
But when you are dealing with artists - including recently dead artists ..........
 
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Steidl should have cleared everything before announcing the book and offering it for sale on Amazon.

Of course we're speculating, the delay may have nothing to do with copyright issues. But Steidl does have a poor track record when it comes to releasing announced titles in a timely manner.

Two other examples: they announced two Frank Gohlke titles in 2019 (!) - Measure of Emptiness and Speeding Trucks and Other Follies - which were available for pre-order on Amazon. The pre-orders were eventually canceled and the books never released. Both books still show up on the Steidl web site as 'Not Yet Published'.

https://www.amazon.com/Frank-Gohlke-Speeding-Trucks-Follies
 
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I had contacted Steidl about their Wessel Jr. reissue programme, which appeared to be ongoing as of 2023, but they never replied, and nothing is available anywhere by him on Steidl (apart from the beautiful Waikiki, which I own already).

They seem to get things started only to then abandon them?

What a shame.

What is a good Wessel book? I have Night Walk which is a fantastic book. Curious if there is a all encompassing one.
 

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What is a good Wessel book? I have Night Walk which is a fantastic book. Curious if there is a all encompassing one.
Steidl (ouch) has a couple of trilogies: Traffic, Sunset Park, Continental Divide and Walkabout, Man Alone and Botanical Census. I have the first one and enjoy it. I also have Deadbeat Club's Soft Eyes (Leong, Martinez and Wessel) that I like maybe even more. Wessel's printing style is kind of flat for me, but that was his vision.
 
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Wessel's printing style is kind of flat for me, but that was his vision.

That's interesting Pieter, I find Wessel's tonal choices so pleasant that I'm unable to look anymore at anything by eg Koudelka or Salgado. Too much contrast, too much drama, too much dodging/burning shoved on my face.

Apparently Wessel used exclusively one Leica, one lens, and TriX exposed at 200 for the entirety of his career.
 
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