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Arthurwg said:
That's what they said about Thelonious Monk as well. But in Frank's case, it was largely because they felt he disparaged the United States. Ansel felt that way too.
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Beyond seeing his work as critical of the United states, at the time they thought his technique was poor. “Flawed by meaningless blur grain, muddy exposure, drunken horizons, and general sloppiness"... “contempt for any standards of quality or discipline in technique.”
 
Pieter12 said:
Beyond seeing his work as critical of the United states, at the time they thought his technique was poor. “Flawed by meaningless blur grain, muddy exposure, drunken horizons, and general sloppiness"... “contempt for any standards of quality or discipline in technique.”
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I just saw a Moriyama exhibit in Carmel, CA on the weekend. He takes all of these 'flaws' to another level.
 
Pieter12 said:
Beyond seeing his work as critical of the United states, at the time they thought his technique was poor. “Flawed by meaningless blur grain, muddy exposure, drunken horizons, and general sloppiness"... “contempt for any standards of quality or discipline in technique.”
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I guess they didn't like the Leica Look.
 
Just picked up two books by Daido Moriyama, Record and Record 2, published by Thames and Hudson. I've always enjoyed much of his work, but the current exhibition at the Center for Photographic Art in Carmel, CA (Daido Moriayama, Five Decades) made me appreciate it even more. Seeing the prints in person (all silver gelatin!) is a completely different experience than seeing them in books or online.

If you're in the SF Bay Area before 11/16 definitely stop by the CPA and see the show. I've got two prints hanging in the gallery this month as well (a perk for being a volunteer docent), so please check them out while you're there.
 
logan2z said:
Just picked up two books by Daido Moriyama, Record and Record 2, published by Thames and Hudson. I've always enjoyed much of his work, but the current exhibition at the Center for Photographic Art in Carmel, CA (Daido Moriayama, Five Decades) made me appreciate it even more. Seeing the prints in person (all silver gelatin!) is a completely different experience than seeing them in books or online.

If you're in the SF Bay Area before 11/16 definitely stop by the CPA and see the show. I've got two prints hanging in the gallery this month as well (a perk for being a volunteer docent), so please check them out while you're there.
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My next trip to Carmel isn't until April 2025. Bummer. Meanwhile, I have pricked up Avedon/Capote's Obervations and John Sexton's Places of Power. Quite different books, but I have eclectic tastes. Agee/Evan's Now Let Us Praise Famous Men in the basket waiting to be checked out.
 
Pieter12 said:
My next trip to Carmel isn't until April 2025. Bummer. Meanwhile, I have pricked up Avedon/Capote's Obervations and John Sexton's Places of Power. Quite different books, but I have eclectic tastes. Agee/Evan's Now Let Us Praise Famous Men in the basket waiting to be checked out.
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I'm not sure what will be on view in April, but I'm sure it'll be something worth seeing.

Nice selection of books!
 
This may have been covered in another thread regarding Edward Weston but since it's a book question; I have the chance to buy the older heavy gold slip-case expensive version of

www.shutterbug.com

Edward Weston: One Hundred Twenty-Five Photographs

Near Carmel, California, there is a small beach studded with rocks, shells, and sand formed over thousands of years. The tide pushes in daily with a great, uninterrupted force of life, pounding the giant rocks and sand, yet gently feeding and refreshing the sparkling tide pools that spawn life...
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Is it worth double the price vs. the "affordable" version Ammo put out later? Or would I simply have collector style bragging rights? It does look like the earlier one is 14x14 inches while the later is smaller.
Newer, smaller is duotone printed.
 
I see that David Zwirner Books has begun their site wide 25% off Holiday Sale which runs until Dec. 8. Some good photography books in their catalog by Diane Arbus, Roy DeCarava, William Eggleston, etc. I may go for a Joan Mitchell book that's been on my Want List for a while...
 
logan2z said:
I see that David Zwirner Books has begun their site wide 25% off Holiday Sale which runs until Dec. 8. Some good photography books in their catalog by Diane Arbus, Roy DeCarava, William Eggleston, etc. I may go for a Joan Mitchell book that's been on my Want List for a while...
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I have the Arbus and the DeCarava. Both fantastic. The Eggleston is tempting...
 
There are at least 2 Arbus books listed. I have them both. But then I'm a big fan with at least 5 books plus I've read both biographies. Couldn't stand to watch more than the first 15 minutes of Fur, though.

Kinda bothers me that the gallery is selling "complete" art book libraries for thousands. I would rather pick my own than have someone decide what should be on my shelves. Who buys something like that?
 
Pieter12 said:
Who buys something like that?
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I guess people rich enough to come in the gallery and buy an actual photograph by Arbus or Eggleston 😏.

i.e., not me.
 
Alex Benjamin said:
I guess people rich enough to come in the gallery and buy an actual photograph by Arbus or Eggleston 😏.

i.e., not me.
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I would hope that someone who can afford an original Arbus also has the money, taste and time to build their own collection of books. Library-in-a box sounds like something a decorator or maybe set stylist would go for.
 
Pieter12 said:
Kinda bothers me that the gallery is selling "complete" art book libraries for thousands. I would rather pick my own than have someone decide what should be on my shelves. Who buys something like that?
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The books are all available separately at 25% off as well. You can browse books by artist here:

www.davidzwirner.com

Browse Books by Artist | David Zwirner

David Zwirner is an art gallery with locations in New York, Los Angeles, London, Paris and Hong Kong. We present physical and online exhibitions, podcasts, books, and more.
www.davidzwirner.com www.davidzwirner.com

I assume they create these gift bundles to make it easy for people who may not know much about art themselves to buy books for their art-loving friends/family. "Hey, Jim is into photography, let's buy him a bundle of photography books" 🙂

I've personally got all of the Arbus, Eggleston and DeCarava that I need, but I'm a big fan of Joan Mitchell's work and will probably pick up this.
 
logan2z said:
The books are all available separately at 25% off as well. You can browse books by artist here:

www.davidzwirner.com

Browse Books by Artist | David Zwirner

David Zwirner is an art gallery with locations in New York, Los Angeles, London, Paris and Hong Kong. We present physical and online exhibitions, podcasts, books, and more.
www.davidzwirner.com www.davidzwirner.com

I assume they create these gift bundles to make it easy for people who may not know much about art themselves to buy books for their art-loving friends/family. "Hey, Jim is into photography, let's buy him a bundle of photography books" 🙂

I've personally got all of the Arbus, Eggleston and DeCarava that I need, but I'm a big fan of Joan Mitchell's work and will probably pick up this.
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I was thinking of this one:

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Pieter12 said:
I was thinking of this one:

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You wonder if the reason one would buy an "instant" library without knowing whether or not one likes the artists featured in the library is if one wants a library made to be looked at instead of a library made of books to be looked at... 🤔🧐
 
And speaking of books, I've been immensely enjoying two about photography, Gerry Badger's The Pleasure of Good Photographs and David Campany's So Present, So Invisible: Conversations About Photography. The Badger, in particular, is very inspiring, and has some of the most insightful writing I've read about Atget, Walker Evans, John Gossage, Robert Adams and others.
 
Alex Benjamin said:
You wonder if the reason one would buy an "instant" library without knowing whether or not one likes the artists featured in the library is if one wants a library made to be looked at instead of a library made of books to be looked at... 🤔🧐
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"The David Zwirner Instant Art Library, just add $$$" 🙃
 
Pieter12 said:
My retirement plan is to read all the books I have. That is, when I'm not taking pictures or in the darkroom.
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Those are my three retirement priorities as well. At the moment, darkroom work is trumping the other two.
 
Alex Benjamin said:
Why are you making it so difficult for me to plan my retirement?...
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It's all about self control - which I personally have very little of 😉

There are at least fifteen books across those sellers that I would love to have. I'm trying to narrow it down to one or two. So far I've bought just one. We'll see how well I do over the next few days...
 
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