The Petzval is now available on lomography shop

darkosaric · Aug 14, 2014

http://shop.lomography.com/de/lense...ch_int&utm_medium=email&utm_source=newsletter

So we from APUG will wait for couple of months - soon they will be cheaper and rich guys will sell them on ebay after they play a little. When I find one for 200 euros - I will buy it .

Daire Quinlan · Aug 14, 2014

Not actually a petzval though from what I remember, though they do their level best to persuade people it is.

alienmeatsack · Aug 14, 2014

I've got the brass Nikon edition. It works great and makes lovely photos.

I don't care for the aperture discs system, as I've nearly lost my disks many times just in the short time I've had the lens. It's also very very heavy. Don't count on a casual walk and snapping a few photos when using this lens, you will be carrying a beast.

I think it was worth the money and I look forward to using it for many years to come.

mweintraub · Aug 14, 2014

alienmeatsack said:
I've got the brass Nikon edition. It works great and makes lovely photos.

If you visit Dallas, bring it along because I'd like to see it.

MDR · Aug 14, 2014

Daire Quinlan said:
Not actually a petzval though from what I remember, though they do their level best to persuade people it is.

It seems that you are right according to online sources it is 4/3 construction and not the classic Petzval construction it still seems like a nice lens though

Kawaiithulhu · Aug 14, 2014

Why not use the original lens configuration, these decisions keep me away from otherwise useful projects like this

AgX · Aug 14, 2014

The only reason that comes to my mind is that the set-up they chose was already in existence concerning the lens elements.

darkosaric · Aug 15, 2014

Or maybe "Petzval effect" is more visible in small 35mm format with this lens configuration?

MDR · Aug 15, 2014

This whole Petzval thing is just stupid if used correctly for the right sized plates etc the petzval produces superb Images without a big effect other than the swirly Bokeh if used wide open with a busy Background. And any triplet can do swirly bokeh if used wide open with a busy Background.

I am all for this lens but the whole Petzval thing is marketing B.S.

E. von Hoegh · Aug 15, 2014

MDR said:
This whole Petzval thing is just stupid if used correctly for the right sized plates etc the petzval produces superb Images without a big effect other than the swirly Bokeh if used wide open with a busy Background. And any triplet can do swirly bokeh if used wide open with a busy Background.

I am all for this lens but the whole Petzval thing is marketing B.S.

Yes, lomography is pretty pathetic. And no, I don't want to hear the rationalization that they "keep film alive" - they keep bull$hit alive is what they do. When the Petzval type is used as it was intended, there are no nauseating swirls; it was intended to be used as a large aperture portrait lens.

darkosaric · Aug 15, 2014

They have find the way to survive on the market, maybe there is a little BS from time to time (they are not the only one), but they are better than todays Kodak in any case.

MDR · Aug 15, 2014

I bought and like a lot of lomography products but the way they advertise the Petzval borders on deliberate consumer deception. They talk about the 1840 etc... and nowhere do they mention that it is not a Petzval lens at all. If they would sell it as in the Spirit of the .... lens than it would be okay . On the german site they even advertise it as Petzval Portrait lens and use this wording "Das Lomography Petzval Objektiv ist eine beeindruckende Neuauflage einer der ersten und großartigsten Objektive aller Zeiten" the english Version is worded more carefully The Lomography x Zenit Petzval Lens is a stunning reinvention of one of the first and greatest lenses of all time. Neuauflage= reissue and not reinvention.

Again I am all for this lens and the look it gives but I won't buy it as I have plenty of real Petzval's at home. I wish them plenty of success or at least I wish Zenit plenty of success. They should just tone down their marketing.

E. von Hoegh · Aug 15, 2014

darkosaric said:
They have find the way to survive on the market, maybe there is a little BS from time to time (they are not the only one), but they are better than todays Kodak in any case.

How about by selling an honest product at an honest price?

LJH · Aug 15, 2014

It's just a lens; lighten up.

darkosaric · Aug 15, 2014

E. von Hoegh said:
How about by selling an honest product at an honest price?

Todays capitalism is no longer married with democracy and honesty. Those days are long gone.

trythis · Aug 16, 2014

When was that? In the days of snake oil? I don't capitalism is every completely honest or wholesome unless you are watching Andy Griffeth shows.

I bought one their Konstructor kits and it makes some really swirly backgrounds. $30!
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pdeeh · Aug 16, 2014

LJH said:
It's just a lens; lighten up.

quite

AgX · Aug 16, 2014

AgX said:
Why not use the original lens configuration, these decisions keep me away from otherwise useful projects like this

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The only reason that comes to my mind is that the set-up they chose was already in existence concerning the lens elements.

Or could it be that a Petzval construction that includes the abberated part in a 35mm frame lacks enough back focal distance for 35mm SLR's ?

But the respective Petzval design by our fellow member Denys works with medium-format SLR's.
Thus a respective design should work with 35mm SLR's.

The Petzval is now available on lomography shop

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