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Jeg ere gammel, du er en lilla barn! I know I spelled that horribly.
 

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Aggie said:
Jeg ere gammel, du er en lilla barn! I know I spelled that horribly.

jig with her what? An why do her in a little barn?

That can't be right!
 

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Aggie said:
Jeg ere gammel, du er en lilla barn! I know I spelled that horribly.

LOL

"Lilla Barn" = Purple kid
"Lille barn" = Little kid

I'm about 24 years old, but already tied up in marriage...

Rodinal is the greatest thing. Mix one part Rodinal with 3 parts Gin and 1 part Campari and drink in the sun....ahhhhhhhhhh.

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modafoto said:
LOL

"Lilla Barn" = Purple kid
"Lille barn" = Little kid
Ok I knew I misspelled it. Not as bad as when my sister tried to say she has a pretty face. She said (this is misspelled too, but you will get the idea) Hun hvad en smuk fece!
 

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I have been using FP4 with Formulary's ABC+ Pyro (rollo pyro) developer. It stains well, and gives unbelievable sharpness and tonality. It just requires precautions that we should all probably use, anyway.
Steven
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SLNestler said:
. It just requires precautions that we should all probably use, anyway.
Steven

That's what everybody, except Howard Bond, has been saying.
 

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Maybe somebody should invent a tylenol developer. then we would have something that would be 3x more toxic than ABC.
 

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There is a definite genetic component in Parkinson's disease. However, a few years ago, a group of young people began showing severe symptoms similar to those of Parkinson's. Their condition was finally traced back to a bad batch of Ecstasy. A class of compounds called orthoquinones were implicated as contributing to the toxicity. Unsubstituted orthoquinone is the oxidation product of catechol.
 

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avandesande said:
Maybe somebody should invent a tylenol developer
The active ingredient in tylenol is a derivative of p-aminophenol. There was an article many years ago in the Dignan Newsletter on how to make a developer from a couple of Tylenol tablets, some sodium sulfite and some sodium hydroxide.
 

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This is web legend. This really happens with synthetic opiates such as fentanyl.
http://www.totse.com/en/drugs/rare_and_exotic_drugs/opiatesy.html

There isn't any connection between phenolics an parkinsons.



Gerald Koch said:
There is a definite genetic component in Parkinson's disease. However, a few years ago, a group of young people began showing severe symptoms similar to those of Parkinson's. Their condition was finally traced back to a bad batch of Ecstasy. A class of compounds called orthoquinones were implicated as contributing to the toxicity. Unsubstituted orthoquinone is the oxidation product of catechol.
 

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A portion of one of numerous medical articles concerning the toxicity of catechol to nerve cells.

Since catechol autoxidizes in physiological phosphate buffer, we hypothesized that it could be toxic towards glial cells due to the generation of reactive oxygen species and quinones. In this work we studied the cytotoxic properties of catechol towards human glioblastoma cells. We found that catechol was toxic towards these cells after 72 hours and this toxicity was related to the formation of quinones. Catechol at 230µM killed 50% of cells. The catechol-induced cytotoxicity was prevented by the addition of 100U superoxide dismutase, which also inhibited the formation of quinones. These data suggest that catechol induces cytotoxicity via the extracellular generation of superoxide and quinones.
 

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avandesande said:
Cytotoxic? Maybe. Parkinson's, no.

This was the point that I was trying to make -- perhaps not clearly. Edward Weston could have had true Parkinson's disease or he could have had something else which was mistaken for Parkinson's and which *could* have been caused by exposure to developing agents.
 

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If you would like to take this offline we can discuss octanol coefficients, para-chloro-amphetamine, and brain damage.

Pyrogallol does not cause parkinson's or parkinson's-like symptoms.
 
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