The New Leitz - Wetzlar Leica M6 (and the dreaded film scratching issue)

[snusmumriken]

Hell of a money for a slow maximum 1000 speed shutter opening and closing behind your lens in front of your film.

Isn't that where most shutters are? Unless you are making a comparison with LF?

 

[Sirius Glass]

What I hate about my Leica CL and Minolta CLE is that I can not shoot 400/800/1600 iso daylight on the beach and late afternoon/evening with the same camera. I always have to have 2 cameras. I need 4000 shutter speed to do that. I am sick of caring 2/3 cameras with me. And while my canon 40mm is very good and small my minolta and canon 28mm lenses are not even close to my elmarit.
If it was not for the size I would not even use a range finder. Composition with SLR is fine for me. But when I have to carry 2 rangefinder cameras "1 with low iso and 1 with high iso" it defeats the size advantage.

I am puzzled. Please explain why.

 

[Huss]

Taking out the film you have in your camera and reloading with an appropriate roll? $10.

Complaining on photrio? Priceless.

10 stop ND filter? $35

Complaining on photrio? Priceless

 

[madNbad]

There are days at the Oregon coast you could use a Noctilux wide open with 800 speed film and still not crack 1/125th.

 

[Sirius Glass]

There are days at the Oregon coast you could use a Noctilux wide open with 800 speed film and still not crack 1/125th.

And even more nights.

 

[Huss]

I am puzzled. Please explain why.

He cannot. He was grasping at straws when he saw his attempt to mock fall apart.

 

[madNbad]

I am puzzled. Please explain why.

Maybe he likes to carry a bunch of cameras at the same time.

 

[Radost]

There are days at the Oregon coast you could use a Noctilux wide open with 800 speed film and still not crack 1/125th.

Lived in Portland for 3 years. I believe it.

 

[Radost]

Taking out the film you have in your camera and reloading with an appropriate roll? $10.

Complaining on photrio? Priceless.

10 stop ND filter? $35

Complaining on photrio? Priceless

Putting a $35 filter on $2500 lens… priceless. Dont want to complicate and deal with filters. Especially ND.

 

[Radost]

I am puzzled. Please explain why.

“Why” which of the things I mentioned?

 

[Sirius Glass]

“Why” which of the things I mentioned?

Why do you hate the Leica CL and Minolta CLE more explicitly, please?

 

[Radost]

Why do you hate the Leica CL and Minolta CLE more explicitly, please?

Only up to 1000 speed shutter. When I am out my Minolta 5 or Canon 300v it is so much more flexible being able to do 4000 speed

 

[Huss]

Putting a $35 filter on $2500 lens… priceless. Dont want to complicate and deal with filters. Especially ND.

Not being able to get your shot because you refuse to use an ND filter? Priceless.

Whining about it on Photrio? Priceless.

Doing something about it? Nope.

 

[Sirius Glass]

Only up to 1000 speed shutter. When I am out my Minolta 5 or Canon 300v it is so much more flexible being able to do 4000 speed

I do not use 1/1000 very often. 1/500 more often and I do not find it cramps my style.

 

[faberryman]

Putting a $35 filter on $2500 lens… priceless. Dont want to complicate and deal with filters. Especially ND.

Why complicate things with a ND filter when you can just carry a second camera?

The real question is why stop at a 1/8000 shutter speed? A top shutter speed of 1/16,000 would be so much more versatile. Maybe 1/32,000. Think about it. You could shoot solar eclipses on T-Max P3200 without stopping down. Nothing says solar eclipse like a little bokeh.

 

[Huss]

Radost really should buy a Konica RF if he wants a RF camera that has a 1/4000 sec shutter.
All his imaginary problems would be solved!

 

[Huss]

Why complicate things with a ND filter when you can just carry a second camera?

ESPECIALLY an ND filter! Remember he emphasized that!

 

[Sirius Glass]

Why complicate things with a ND filter when you can just carry a second camera?

The real question is why stop a 1/8000 second shutter speed? A top shutter speed of 1/16,000 second would be so much more versatile.

1/10,000 starts causing reciprocity problems in some films because the exposure time is too short.

 

[faberryman]

1/10,000 starts causing reciprocity problems in some films because the exposure time is too short.

Certainly something film manufacturers need to get to work on. They've been resting on their laurels long enough.

 

[Huss]

Certainly something film manufacturers need to get to work on. They've been resting on their laurels long enough.

It's definitely holding Radost back. He needs film technology to catch up to his needs.

 

[Huss]

Portra 400 shot at 1.8, bright sunshine. What kind of black magic allowed this to happen? An ND filter. Oh the inconveniences we have to bear!

 

[Sirius Glass]

Certainly something film manufacturers need to get to work on. They've been resting on their laurels long enough.

No, it has to do with the physics of the chemical reaction to light. If the illumination period is too short the reaction reverses. This is not something that can be corrected with the Parry Hotter Magic Wand.

 

[mtnbkr]

I'm still wondering how I managed to capture images with my Canon TL's max shutter speed of 1/500th back when I was in college (early 90s, the camera was an antique already).

Chris

 

[MattKing]

Are we really arguing about what others should prefer to do?
Moderator's hat on: Stop It!
Moderator's hat back off.

 

[mshchem]

Portra 400 shot at 1.8, bright sunshine. What kind of black magic allowed this to happen? An ND filter. Oh the inconveniences we have to bear!

So when you are sporting a couple M7's, beautiful women just let you walk up and take their picture?? The Leica mystique!