The Ironies of Thai Selfie Culture: Social Semaphore Over Smoothies

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Good to be back! God, I really missed APUG and the usual crowd during the downtime. I wanted to post this here last week but obviously wasn't able to so I'd like to share now. It's from my blog last week, for more of these weekly musings, advice and guides plus my film galleries click on my signature below. Disclaimer: This was written as light-hearted, tongue in cheek, social comment about photography where I personally live...I wasn't actually seriously looking down or judging anyone. Just want to make that clear as people can read too much into things at times, myself definitely included!


The Ironies of Thai Selfie Culture: Social Semaphore over Smoothies.


Every genre of photography exists for a reason and fulfills a role. By far and away the largest genre prevalent in the world today is the smartphone-facilitated snapshot taken specifically for sharing on social media. Who could have known that this genre would have had such a significant impact upon not only photography but also the way people live their lives as a whole?


Sure, this is old news, but it still never ceases to amaze me how witnessing examples of its impact on social behaviour first hand can bewilder, amuse and sometimes even sadden me as the observer. There’s a version of these events and stories for every city and town in the world. This is what I witnessed in Bangkok recently:


I had been shooting street, it was a day when I was pushing myself and I had got up to maybe my third roll with a 35 Summaron on the M2. Nice weather but hot and I needed a place to sit down, sort through some films in my pocket and replenish my body with fluids in a cool place. I had sat down in a nice cold fruit smoothie establishment in a pretty slick part of the city. I was sat at the back but next to the window with Leica bits, Kodak cannisters and a light meter strewn in front of me on the nice wooden butcher style table top. I was unwittingly announcing to the world that I was probably odd or eccentric, if the world were bothered enough to pay attention to me, which of course it wasn’t. Times like these you might get a puzzled smile from an older person or a Klingon hipster trying to shoot you that knowing look.


Through the large window I notice a young couple advancing toward this place, they were doing the annoying self-important walking whilst smart phoning and not looking up thing. People engaging in this practice are basically relying on other people’s good will in getting out of their way. This is a classic ignorance and arrogance combination that has never sat well with me. Although it can sometimes be amusing when you see two people bumping into each other doing the same thing from different directions. I saw a guy drop his uncased IPhone to the floor once from such an affair. The jerky fumble dance that ensued as he tried in vain to catch it on the way down was almost Mick Jaggeresque. Upon hastily reclaiming his beloved device from the evil terra firma, his face looked like he had just lost a kidney. Talk about crash test dummies. I wonder what happens if a pedestrian crossing whilst texting gets hit by a motorist who is texting and driving? Would the universe have some way to just kind of let the two cancel other each out and chalk up another couple of strikes for team Darwin?


Although I don’t always admit it, I sometimes gain twisted satisfaction in being deliberately ‘obtuse’ to these kind of offenders in public, I say the word in much the same way that Andy Dufresne did, although hopefully without the such dire consequences. I refuse to side step them, I stop short of actually speeding up and barging them head on but NO, I will not sidestep for thee. It’s on you. But that wasn’t what had really caught my attention about this pair of trendy lookers, they were both really quite photogenic and I was fervently hoping that they wouldn’t suddenly create the perfect street scene photograph right before me now in great light as I was sit there with no film loaded in the M2. These ‘the one that got away’ moments haunt all photographers, especially those who shoot street with film cameras. The young girl was really very pretty, although she probably didn’t quite believe this herself as she was caked up in far more make up than she needed, and her boyfriend was quite the good looking young chap. It’s always a hallmark of a good looking bloke that even straight men notice how good looking you are. It’s a gold standard.


They enter the scene stage left, not looking up from their phones and yet still somehow managing to both get through the door and into the establishment. There is a long high bar and stools along another window. She sits at one stool and he automatically sits two stools down from her. This immediately piqued my interest as they were clearly a couple yet it was a given that this space was needed between them and you could just tell that this was a regular and well rehearsed drill between them. The young guy ordered smoothies of their choice without entirely looking at the menu at all; his eyes still never left the phone. As they waited for somebody to bring their order over, both of them anxiously tried several different positions on the seat to see which angle and light worked the best. They had both decided at the same time and without any communication between them, that their entry to a humble smoothie outlet was an event that they needed to broadcast to the world. The young lady in question briefly applies either lip balm or lipstick of some kind and then warms up with a few shots. I am only two metres or so away and her smartphone is a newer, jumbo screened affair. I can see that she has already taken at least six photos but none of them have yet met with her approval. The smoothies arrive, now she needs to include this in the frame and proceeds to take another ten frames with her mouth sucking on the straw in a goofy manner but she’s still not happy. Pretty > Goofy, try again. She takes yet more frames with the smoothie on the bar top and her pretty head at just the right angle next to it. Getting closer now, she’s honing in on the desired result but I can see that she is less than thrilled to have me in the background of the shots. I can just make myself out in them. She moves a fake potted plant very slightly (and slowly so as to not make it to obvious) with her fingertips jus a bit at a time until my unfortunate middle age has been perfectly blocked out of the frame and that’s when I realize why they have sat so spaced apart. This lady needs her own ‘selfie-zone’ studio space everywhere in which she can move herself and all the props within it to represent her own perfect, trite, saccharin sweet, artificial version of reality for just 1/500th of a second to show the world.


Don’t fear that her other half is getting his feelings hurt by accommodating such a requirement, for he himself is making full use of the space to take similar selfies of note wearing his sunglasses indoors. He’s less concerned with including the smoothie in the frame in case it compromises his high-maintenance fragile new masculinity. Yet nailing the perfect angle of the sunglasses and their reflection is an issue which seems to be challenging him somewhat. He has made at least twenty to thirty attempts at this shot despite being sat in good light with a very capable camera in his late model, high-end smartphone with huge display.


Not. One. Word. Not so much as a non sequitur.


I watched on. I couldn’t quite decide if it was great that they were so comfortable together that they could be like this with each other or whether it were in fact such a terrible shame that they were wasting their wonderful young days of love away uploading pictures of fruit smoothies to people that they haven’t seen since kindergarten. Desperate to plug into the grid and the hive matrix, real life was passing them by as their youth and good looks slowly melt away like the smoothies in front of them. Too busy updating the world to actually be in it. Authors of their own irony. Virtual reality…the first word means almost. This situation was almost real, but not quite. Something occurred to me now that I’m entering middle age. I’m glad that in my first days of adulthood, a photo was something I took quickly with a compact camera and then got developed later on. I’m glad not to have missed out on that part of my life due to being sucked into the matrix. I love technology but I also love life and wish to appreciate it with technology in it, not the other way around. Maybe that sounds like an old man saying “Get off my lawn”, I honestly don’t know. I’ll go one further, younger people should have their heads up more to see and enjoy the world instead of their heads down like the old people playing bingo who have already seen it.


The two young lovers continued their routine, not once interfering with each other’s flow or (im)personal space. I have to admit, it was seamlessly done and as smooth as their beverages. There was almost a sense of choreography to it, all which unwittingly revealed just how often they had practiced this rendition. All it really needed was Ravel’s Bolero in the background and it would have been bordering on a performance art piece in its own right.


My M2 was now loaded, the light had changed, and my cup of tea was done. I took a reading with my Sekonic, wound on and shot the first two blank frames out of the way and I was ready to go. As I stood up and got ready to leave, handsome boy had finally just about got his sunglasses to be exactly as he wanted them. By looking at him posing in his screen, I could see exactly where his eyes were looking and he was completely oblivious to my new position or recent movement. I came in close and fired off a shot of both of them from the side. He didn’t flinch, relentless in pursuit of the ultimate selfie for the day. I went for broke and stepped in closer still to test the minimum focus range of the Summaron at around eighty centimetres, literally less than meter away from the guy’s face almost exactly square on from him at ninety degrees. I knew that he would catch me in the act but decided that I wanted the shot and would just smile and leave the premises as planned upon being busted. Amazingly, I took the second shot and still neither of them cottoned on. I was the invisible man. I went on my merry way. You can see the shot of this couple on the ‘work’ page of this site (Dead Link Removed in the ‘E = Siam Squared Part II' gallery). Never did hear them speak. They didn’t even see me leave despite my doubling back around and walking past their window on the way to the next stage of my photographic jaunt. They were just so wholly consumed by sharing with their legions of adoring devotees. Were Lennon still alive today, he might have said “ Life is what happens while you’re busy making other fans.”


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What a nice and well written story.
We all these days see this happening.
 

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Young people have always been narcissistic, but the current edition seem to have had the irony gene removed. When I was their age, if someone had pulled out a compact camera and turned it on themselves at arm's length, they'd have never lived it down and their friends would have relayed the story back to them with considerable glee. Now people pout for the camera like the coffee bar is a catwalk and the high street has a red carpet. My wife was talking to a gallery curator recently who said people no longer visit to look at the work, but to be seen with it on social network sites. People with their backs to the work, smiling by association with it.

It's impossible to overstate how weird it is to a chap of my age.
 

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nicely written, agree wholeheartedly with those observations
 

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Nicely observed and written. Their obliviousness reveals a fascinating yet sad aspect of contemporary culture.
 
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What a nice and well written story.
We all these days see this happening.

Young people have always been narcissistic, but the current edition seem to have had the irony gene removed. When I was their age, if someone had pulled out a compact camera and turned it on themselves at arm's length, they'd have never lived it down and their friends would have relayed the story back to them with considerable glee. Now people pout for the camera like the coffee bar is a catwalk and the high street has a red carpet. My wife was talking to a gallery curator recently who said people no longer visit to look at the work, but to be seen with it on social network sites. People with their backs to the work, smiling by association with it.

It's impossible to overstate how weird it is to a chap of my age.

nicely written, agree wholeheartedly with those observations

Nicely observed and written. Their obliviousness reveals a fascinating yet sad aspect of contemporary culture.

Thanks All, just observations that's all. Glad I'm not completely alone at least.
 

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I enjoyed the story chromacomaphoto, at one point I thought you were going to leave the scene without having taken any pictures, which would have been justified.

But I am fascinated that every part of your story exists in your shot, from the potted plant, the distance between them, the sunglasses reflection.

I look forward to more, as the combination of narrative and photo is intriguing.
 

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It's impossible to overstate how weird it is to a chap of my age.

I find it weird (to say the least) and I'm only in my early 30s. Never understood it and don't see myself understanding it anytime soon.
 
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Thanks to all for taking the time to reads my inane ramblings
 
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I enjoyed the story chromacomaphoto, at one point I thought you were going to leave the scene without having taken any pictures, which would have been justified.

But I am fascinated that every part of your story exists in your shot, from the potted plant, the distance between them, the sunglasses reflection.

I look forward to more, as the combination of narrative and photo is intriguing.

Thanks, yes the photo matches my recollection of it pretty well!
 
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I find it weird (to say the least) and I'm only in my early 30s. Never understood it and don't see myself understanding it anytime soon.

That's interesting, I'm early forties and figure it unusual to find it so weird sometimes, even at my age (meaning not that old). To learn of people ten years younger who can see the weirder side of this social-situation is a surprise really in many ways. Thanks for your comment.
 

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I'm unsettled by the irony that I don't have enough pictures of myself. Self portraits are a valid subject. But I didn't do very much of the genre.

I'm having trouble with my glasses and wanted to match up the glasses with the prescriptions - figured it would be so easy to find a few pictures of me at different times... but I don't have that many pictures of myself. Sure, pictures of the kids and pets, my wife and friends are all easy to find. But pictures of me are pretty scarce.
 
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I'm unsettled by the irony that I don't have enough pictures of myself. Self portraits are a valid subject. But I didn't do very much of the genre.

I'm having trouble with my glasses and wanted to match up the glasses with the prescriptions - figured it would be so easy to find a few pictures of me at different times... but I don't have that many pictures of myself. Sure, pictures of the kids and pets, my wife and friends are all easy to find. But pictures of me are pretty scarce.


Fair comment Bill. At this point I must confess that despite authoring the above article, I also sometimes find that pictures of the mrs and kids outnumber any of me by a ridiculous margin. This is always brought home to us about once a year when one of the kids asks for a picture of just daddy for a school project or something and we struggle to find any for a whole year! One of the problems with being the resident 'family photographer' isn't it? To be fair, although it's easy enough to hand over the camera to somebody else to shoot me with, it's not always as easy for them to operate it. I think as film photographers we might over estimate how even something as simple as manual focus lenses might be a challenge to people who only shoot with iphones.
 
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Young people have always been narcissistic, but the current edition seem to have had the irony gene removed. When I was their age, if someone had pulled out a compact camera and turned it on themselves at arm's length, they'd have never lived it down and their friends would have relayed the story back to them with considerable glee. Now people pout for the camera like the coffee bar is a catwalk and the high street has a red carpet. My wife was talking to a gallery curator recently who said people no longer visit to look at the work, but to be seen with it on social network sites. People with their backs to the work, smiling by association with it.

It's impossible to overstate how weird it is to a chap of my age.


Yeah, I'm smiling as I imagine some random pub in the north of England somewhere in the late 70's and some kid is taking lots of photos of himself at arm's length whilst executing an array of 'cutsie' facial expressions. Wouldn't have lasted five minutes! Don't even get me started on people who go to art galleries and then spend the entire time with the digital device between themselves and the work of art that is there so that they are looking at it via the screen backwards with their mugs in the way rather than with their own eyes. I was at Rembrandt's house in Amsterdam a couple of years back and saw some woman just miss out on the whole experience altogether as she fiddled with settings on some beat up looking old ipad to take what were clearly very dark and out of focus selfies of extreme mediocrity. I think the American stand-up comedian Louis C.K. has a brilliant bit somewhere about parents doing that at children's end of term plays and recitals etc and using your eyes instead of '4k' etc, he's very funny in his delivery of it.
 

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Yeah, I'm smiling as I imagine some random pub in the north of England somewhere in the late 70's and some kid is taking lots of photos of himself at arm's length whilst executing an array of 'cutsie' facial expressions. Wouldn't have lasted five minutes!
Everyone is the star in their own movie nowadays. People photograph their breakfast, their shoes, a selection of outfits for their social networking sites, so recording a series of what they imagine to be fabulous, hot, moody expressions derived from magazines is sadly inevitable.
I quite liked it when people had self awareness, even a little shame. There was an article a few years ago on the things people do on public transport to get ready for work. Apparently some women routinely shave their legs on the train, and depilating other bits is not unknown. It's like they're in a bubble and no one else exists. I missed the cultural permissions that lead them to such things, and it's not an exclusively female mindset. Like I say, endlessly weird.
 

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That's interesting, I'm early forties and figure it unusual to find it so weird sometimes, even at my age (meaning not that old). To learn of people ten years younger who can see the weirder side of this social-situation is a surprise really in many ways. Thanks for your comment.

What I find weird is not wanting a record of important moments that includes oneself but the narcissism that many people seem to flaunt online. I've seen people on facebook, who were once friends, post asinine amounts of duck faced selfies, couples posting every argument they have, what they ate, what they want to eat, where they are at, where they were at, basically everything short of their daily bathroom rituals. It's like people think they are celebrities and everything they say, do feel, think, or see is so important that I must suffer though it with them. What happened to wanting privacy?

This isn't to say I hate social media it's just the whole oversharing and self importance that seems to come along with it. I miss the days when I could go to lunch with friends or family and no one was on a cellphone facebooking or texting. Life's to important to spend it all in my phone.

Sorry for getting a little of topic.
 

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Yeah, I'm smiling as I imagine some random pub in the north of England somewhere in the late 70's and some kid is taking lots of photos of himself at arm's length whilst executing an array of 'cutsie' facial expressions. Wouldn't have lasted five minutes! Don't even get me started on people who go to art galleries and then spend the entire time with the digital device between themselves and the work of art that is there so that they are looking at it via the screen backwards with their mugs in the way rather than with their own eyes. I was at Rembrandt's house in Amsterdam a couple of years back and saw some woman just miss out on the whole experience altogether as she fiddled with settings on some beat up looking old ipad to take what were clearly very dark and out of focus selfies of extreme mediocrity. I think the American stand-up comedian Louis C.K. has a brilliant bit somewhere about parents doing that at children's end of term plays and recitals etc and using your eyes instead of '4k' etc, he's very funny in his delivery of it.

See this thread that I started: (there was a url link here which no longer exists)
 
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