I guess that’s true. Myself, I love big prints in spacious exhibitions, and I am unfailingly impressed by this kind of thing (website says Leica 35mm, Tri-X).
You'll never get a consensus on what "quality" actually means.
I am unfailingly impressed
I will do so, thanks. I should have limited my comment to pointing out the dichotomy between the data-driven quality/reliability ratings (near the bottom) vs. the customer satisfaction ratings (near the top).@TJones kindly refrain from further 'fanboys' comments, especially aimed at other participants in discussions here. Discuss respectfully.
It is impressive, but does being able to print it at 40x60 inches make it a better photograph?
I guess that’s true. Myself, I love big prints in spacious exhibitions, and I am unfailingly impressed by this kind of thing (website says Leica 35mm, Tri-X).
Sometimes!It is impressive, but does being able to print it at 40x60 inches make it a better photograph?
It is impressive, but does being able to print it at 40x60 inches make it a better photograph?
"Hate change"? LOL. As soon as the supply of EVs catches up with demand, I'll be buying one. Unfortunately, Teslas run into the same manufacturing issues that other cars do, with the added bonus of software that isn't nearly as capable as advertised. When the person in charge tells the engineers to enable full self-driving, while at the same time cutting costs by removing the radar sensors that make it possible, I'll look elsewhere. But thanks for your fanboy anecdote.
$17 in most places including:Where the hell are you buying Color Plus for $17 ?
I won’t worry about the electronics on my 8-year old Canon digital camera failing until the electronics on my 45-year old Canon A series camera fail. And even at the unrealistic prices you quote, a battery that’s good for tens of thousands of exposures costs no more than a few rolls of film plus processing.
Teslas are for Musk fanboys, not for people who want a car they can trust. But a well-built electric vehicle, with hundreds fewer moving parts, should be at least as reliable as your ICE car.
$17 in most places including:
And this is why I feel we are getting gouged by Kodak:
Popho Luminar 100 Color Negative Film, 35mm, 36exp. [Expiring 09/2025]
Popho Luminar 100 has been discontinued. The current stock is the last batch. Expiring 09/2025 Popho Luminar 100 is a new ISO 100 speed daylight-balanced color negative film stock is a respooled Kodak Aerocolor IV 2460 color negative aerial photography film*. The film offers medium saturation...popho.ca
$11.38 for FRESH, respooled Kodak Aerocolor IV. These companies buy this film from Kodak - so basically are middlemen - and can sell it at a profit for 40% less than what Kodak via its resellers (who are just putting it on the shelf) are selling ColorPlus.
I suggest it’s more to do with expectation than attitude. The quality that’s acceptable in a budget movie is rather less than you’d expect for a 20x16 still print hung on the wall.
That’s not to deny that smartphones are remarkable, especially in eliminating focus and exposure errors and camera shake, and dealing with colour balance. With all that help one should be able to get a decent shot, but there are still plenty of limitations.
I don't think anybody said anything about "better." However, IMO in many cases an image works especially well when it's printed very large....even mural size.
"Hate change"? LOL. As soon as the supply of EVs catches up with demand, I'll be buying one. Unfortunately, Teslas run into the same manufacturing issues that other cars do, with the added bonus of software that isn't nearly as capable as advertised. When the person in charge tells the engineers to enable full self-driving, while at the same time cutting costs by removing the radar sensors that make it possible, I'll look elsewhere. But thanks for your fanboy anecdote.
I know this is going off topic, but the thing about Tesla is they were the ones that actually brought change. All the other mfgs could have done this years ago. Heck, milk was delivered in electric 'vans' in England over 60 years ago! But none of the car mfgs cared to bring us EVs the way Tesla did because, frankly, they couldn't care less and liked the fact that they tied you to their franchised dealerships for parts, oil changes etc etc.
And it's not only the car side. Tesla built up, by themselves, the now massive SuperCharger network. They built the infrastructure to make this possible! What was Mercedes/BMW/VW/Ford/GM/Fiat etc doing? Nothing.
The expense of shooting film
The difference is that films are objects. You have something you can touch. Work on it is payed, the object is still there. The original camera negative of a major film production, say of 100 minutes run time, is not less than 9,000 feet of stock, net. About 20 kilogram, five cans, cores, tape, bags.
$17 in most places including:
And this is why I feel we are getting gouged by Kodak:
Popho Luminar 100 Color Negative Film, 35mm, 36exp. [Expiring 09/2025]
Popho Luminar 100 has been discontinued. The current stock is the last batch. Expiring 09/2025 Popho Luminar 100 is a new ISO 100 speed daylight-balanced color negative film stock is a respooled Kodak Aerocolor IV 2460 color negative aerial photography film*. The film offers medium saturation...popho.ca
$11.38 for FRESH, respooled Kodak Aerocolor IV. These companies buy this film from Kodak - so basically are middlemen - and can sell it at a profit for 40% less than what Kodak via its resellers (who are just putting it on the shelf) are selling ColorPlus.
Eastman Kodak in America manufacturers Kodak film and sells it to Kodak Alaris in Great Britain who resells the film to stores like B&H. So there are two markups. Kodak Aerocolor is not consumer film and I don;t believe is resold by Alaris. You;re comparing a film wih a particular use to normal consumer film used to shoot people, etc. Here's the description:
APPLICATIONS KODAK AEROCOLOR IV Negative Film 2460 is for general use in medium- to high-altitude aerial-mapping and aerial-reconnaissance photography. It is suited for geological, pollution, archeological, crop and forestry studies; traffic control; city planning; railway, highway, and hydraulic engineering; oceanography; and remote sensing, as well as other areas where photogrammetry is used. It is also well suited and recommended for use in digital film. https://www.kodak.com/content/produ...EROCOLOR-III-Negative-Film-2460-datasheet.pdf
In any case, it;s aerial film. Here's the secription of it in the reselling varieties.
Kodak Aerocolor IV Film Review
A fine-grained medium contrast colour-negative film with a clear base, available in 35mm only.www.analog.cafe
… help the environment by getting rid of all those filthy and useless 1 and 0 bits filling up the universe.
That job is half done already… the zeros are, by definition, nothing at all. Let’s focus on getting rid of the useless ones
If they ever do enable self driving heaven help us. Going by the standard of the prototypes and the abysmal failures I hope that never happens. Why has everything to be automatic. if it gets to that degree we may all as well wrap ourselves in greaseproof paper and mark it as Full Fat Human Lard!
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