There seems to be a lot of people who are buying vinyl records and record players. I would never do that now as I'm satisfied with digital music. It's the same with film, people who still ride horses, and who like to bowl.
A 400 foot roll of Eastman Kodak Double-X Black-and-White Negative Film 5222 @ $345 USD will yield about 72 x 36 exposure rolls if you use a bulk loader.
Unit price will be about $5.20 per roll, not counting cartridge.
Not including the cost of a proper way to spool in down to hundred foot rolls. I gave it serious consideration and even purchased a box of 100’ microfilm reels, stripping the old NYT off was a treat. Then the idea of a 400’ roll of film unspooling in my dark tent did not seem very appealing. If you have a darkroom or even a light tight area to set up a two reel system, then it’s a bargain.
There seems to be a lot of people who are buying vinyl records and record players. I would never do that now as I'm satisfied with digital music. It's the same with film, people who still ride horses, and who like to bowl.
I learned my lesson when trying to spool a hundred feet of 5222 on to a core. Thing were fine until something went pop and I had about fifty feet of film headed in different directions.That would be a sight to see. But you'd have to turn the lights on to see it.
A 400 foot roll of Eastman Kodak Double-X Black-and-White Negative Film 5222 @ $345 USD will yield about 72 x 36 exposure rolls if you use a bulk loader.
Unit price will be about $5.20 per roll, not counting cartridge.
$345 / 72 = just about 1/10th of a cent over $4.79. Are you including other costs like shipping?
Exactly. So if their expectation of quality is modest, they’ll be satisfied with their phones. Else not.
In terms of technical quality, the equipment sets the limit. In terms of artistic expression within that constraint, it’s 100% the photographer.
If you are convinced of that and those are important considerations, you presumably prefer digital. But I imagine the reason for this thread was to highlight the cost of film for those of us who wish to stick with it, not to start another film vs digital row.
Modern camera phones are capable of results that are well beyond modest. They've REALLY improved, to an extent people wouldn't believe if they are only using a phone two or more generations old or haven't really tried it.
I have no doubt I could make at least 11x14 prints that would be worthy of hanging on the wall from images from my iPhone 13 Pro, and the newer 14 is even better. There are entire books out on getting the most from them.
They're not a Hasselblad by any means, but it's shocking how far they've come. A modern generation phone camera is going to be more than good enough for 90%+ if not 95%+ of general users, and not just the bottom half of snapshooters.
I sometimes use mine something like a sketchbook. If I'm out walking or such and see something I'd like to photograph on film later I'll take a few quick shots. The phone encodes GPS data if I let it, making it easy to find again, and allows taking notes in the form of captions that will be right there with the "photo note" file(s.)
Not including the cost of a proper way to spool in down to hundred foot rolls. I gave it serious consideration and even purchased a box of 100’ microfilm reels, stripping the old NYT off was a treat. Then the idea of a 400’ roll of film unspooling in my dark tent did not seem very appealing. If you have a darkroom or even a light tight area to set up a two reel system, then it’s a bargain.
I'd like to say that was the case, but I got distracted and had two calculator apps open and grabbed the wrong sum. You're right, but shipping would also be a factor.
Used to be you could buy short ends from motion picture labs of everything from camera negative, interpositive and positive stock for peanuts. It was fun to play and you could produce some good images with the stuff with IF you could tolerate the incredibly low sensitivity of the emulsions.
Too bad that has vanished...
Easy-peasy. Put the big roll on the left and the 100ft core on the right. Roll it on until the circumference reaches the little bits of tape. I do it in my dark bag. Cost? phphphphtt.
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Great idea, what's the spacing between the opposite tape edges (which I guess equals the diameter of a 100ft roll)? I'm thinking of starting bulk loading but the film I want only comes in 400ft rolls (or 1000ft but I'm not that ambitious).Easy-peasy. Put the big roll on the left and the 100ft core on the right. Roll it on until the circumference reaches the little bits of tape. I do it in my dark bag. Cost? phphphphtt.
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Now if you could adapt a ratcheting socket wrench to the winding process, you would be good to go!
Now if you could adapt a ratcheting socket wrench to the winding process, you would be good to go!
Great idea, what's the spacing between the opposite tape edges (which I guess equals the diameter of a 100ft roll)? I'm thinking of starting bulk loading but the film I want only comes in 400ft rolls (or 1000ft but I'm not that ambitious).
what's the spacing between the opposite tape edges
Now if you could adapt a ratcheting socket wrench to the winding process, you would be good to go!
I guess I should hang onto my Moviola rewinds. A quick check of the evil place shows them selling for $200+
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