The Color of Money - What Film?

[StoneNYC]

Well, if you ignore the price, they did make portra 160 in 70mm: http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Kodak-Po...7551711?pt=US_Camera_Film&hash=item4181065b5f

Ironically I had a can of that and decided the money was better spent on sheet film so I sold it and bought 2-3 boxes of ilford sheet film

 

[darkosaric]

Not very mainstream, but if you want to see excellent cinema colors - I recommend Aki Kaurismaki films. For start see The Man without a past:

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0311519/

 

[Alan Klein]

I remember Smellovision. Don't recall what movie though.

 

[StoneNYC]

I remember Smellovision. Don't recall what movie though.

That's Willy Wonka (the original).

 

[pentaxuser]

Alright, does anyone know what Rocky I was shot on?

No.I only know that every Rocky film after Rocky I should never have been shot

pentaxuser

 

[StoneNYC]

Alright, does anyone know what Rocky I was shot on?

It doesn't say much...

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0075148/technical?ref_=tt_ql_dt_7


See I learned how to do it myself now!

 

[mike c]

I remember Smellovision. Don't recall what movie though.

There was a series on television called Dobbie Gilles (s.p.) in one episode his buddy,( Maynard G. Crebbs) finds a bottle of musk oak scent that makes him irresistible to women, is then starred in a movie that is a complete failure due to the fact the film did not have the musk oak scent. At the end of the episode he ask if their is such a thing as Smell-a-vision, years ahead of Reggie Vision.

Mike

 

[TheFlyingCamera]

I remember Smellovision. Don't recall what movie though.

I think John Waters released Pink Flamingos or one of his other early movies with scratch-n-sniff cards. I don't think they had dog poop as one of the scratch tabs though (thank heaven). Now THERE's a movie collectible if you can find one.

 

[StoneNYC]

There was a series on television called Dobbie Gilles (s.p.) in one episode his buddy,( Maynard G. Crebbs) finds a bottle of musk oak scent that makes him irresistible to women, is then starred in a movie that is a complete failure due to the fact the film did not have the musk oak scent. At the end of the episode he ask if their is such a thing as Smell-a-vision, years ahead of Reggie Vision.

Mike

Thanks Mike TV!

You're a "thinker" loved that show as a kid even though they were re-runs.

I always thought it was just called Dobie Gillis but apparently it was actually called "The Many Loves of Dobie Gillis"

http://m.imdb.com/title/tt0052490/

What's the "spherical" process?

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0052490/technical?ref_=tt_ql_dt_7

 

[dehk]

It doesn't say much...

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0075148/technical?ref_=tt_ql_dt_7


See I learned how to do it myself now!

I know I tried to look it up for hours several months ago and came up with nothing. I do like the look in that movie.

 

[btaylor]

Couple of things, Cinerama was originally a 3 camera, 3 projector process. It later became an single projector 70mm system employing anamorphic lenses for both shooting and projection.

A 70mm blow up from a 35mm camera original will reduce the quality loss from the generations of dupes required to get a projection print, hence a higher quality final projection experience.

Spherical process refers to standard "spherical" lenses as opposed to anamorphic lenses that squeeze the image to get a 2.35:1 final aspect projection ratio. Many films were shot on 35mm anamorphic, then "blown up" to 70mm "flat" (no unsqueeze) prints.

65mm is a camera origination format, 70mm is a projection format. The perfs are in the same position but the projection print is 5mm wider for the sound tracks on either side outside the perfs.

 

[AgX]

A 70mm blow up from a 35mm camera original will reduce the quality loss from the generations of dupes required to get a projection print, hence a higher quality final projection experience.

The number of intermediates is not correlated to the format of the print film. (One even could work without any intermediates.) Thus I don't get your point.

 

[btaylor]

AgX,

A 70mm blow up from a 35mm camera original will reduce the quality loss from the generations of dupes required to get a projection print, hence a higher quality final projection experience.

I don't think I wrote that as clearly as I could have. Right, the number of intermediates is not correlated to the format of the print film. However, if the 35mm camera original is optically enlarged to 70mm and all dupes, internegs, prints, etc after that are produced in 70mm you get a better picture than if the duplicates were produced in 35mm. Each generation of duplication results in loss of quality. If the second generation (blow up optical interneg) is 70mm, everything after that looks better than 35mm dupes.

Intermediates are needed to get a projection print for commercial theatrical projection. Not too many people are making 70mm home movies, so I am referring to release prints. There is nothing quite so beautiful to me as direct projection of camera original film like Kodachrome or Ektachrome, but commercial projects require all the intermediate steps.

 

[eclarke]

Interestingly enough, I made the blue case that Paul Newman carried in the movie and donated over 50 cues to be used in the movie.

 

[wblynch]

Cool. Thanks for your contribution to the art, eclarke!

 

[yulia_s_rey]

Couple of things, Cinerama was originally a 3 camera, 3 projector process. It later became an single projector 70mm system employing anamorphic lenses for both shooting and projection...

Thanks for the clarification, I notice I made an error in my post #9 in regards to Cinerama. I wonder how much better it was compared to earlier widescreen systems like Polyvision [sync'd projectors] obviously by switching over to 70 mil they must've run in to some issues.

 

[StoneNYC]

Interestingly enough, I made the blue case that Paul Newman carried in the movie and donated over 50 cues to be used in the movie.

What the!!! That's awesome!!

How much would it cost for you to make a duplicate for me (I have the cue already).

That would be really cool! You're a props master or arts department?

Are you in NY or LA?

 

[StoneNYC]

Snip

65mm is a camera origination format, 70mm is a projection format. The perfs are in the same position but the projection print is 5mm wider for the sound tracks on either side outside the perfs.

Thanks for the other info,

also, so neither of these films would fit in my 70mm Mamiya back because the perfs are in a different place, correct?

Thanks!

 

[Tom1956]

Stone, it's your thread and I haven't read all your posts in it. But I haven't read much of the others either. But the thread's existence has gone a long way to cause a circuit closure of fact tidbits already in my brain, concerning how and why the movie industry chooses their filmstocks they shoot on and how it is reproduced for distribution.

 

[StoneNYC]

Stone, it's your thread and I haven't read all your posts in it. But I haven't read much of the others either. But the thread's existence has gone a long way to cause a circuit closure of fact tidbits already in my brain, concerning how and why the movie industry chooses their filmstocks they shoot on and how it is reproduced for distribution.

Yes this thread has been most informative, truly amazing knowledge, wish I could change the title a bit to cover the broad scope of the info contained within. But this title is more catchy

 

[eclarke]

What the!!! That's awesome!!

How much would it cost for you to make a duplicate for me (I have the cue already).

That would be really cool! You're a props master or arts department?

Are you in NY or LA?

I'm a cuemaker. Those box cases are a thing of the past. I stripped the covering off and replaced it with blue velveteen.. My cues are Schon Cues.

 

[StoneNYC]

I'm a cuemaker. Those box cases are a thing of the past. I stripped the covering off and replaced it with blue velveteen.. My cues are Schon Cues.

My current cue "case" is just your standard black faux leather soft case with red felt lining, nothing special, I don't have one of those hard cases they use today, and I know the felt cases are a thing of the past, that's why they are "cool" retro is cool again hah!

I'm not a shark like my father was, I just have a semi-average 21 weight stick with some mother of pearl inlaid pieces and standard (for these days) string wound grip.

My second stick is a "sleeper cue" it looks like a house cue but it's a 2 piece.

I was only half kidding, I don't play enough to even afford to have you make a custom case, just thought the idea was neat.

Thanks for the share, still really cool contribution to film history.

 

[removed account4]

Cool. Thanks for your contribution to the art, eclarke!

same here!

I'm a cuemaker. Those box cases are a thing of the past. I stripped the covering off and replaced it with blue velveteen.. My cues are Schon Cues.

evan, you have to be one of the humblest person i have met here in cyber space.
you suggesting you are a cuemaker as a matter of factly and all that
would be like if paul newman was on a photography forum (with people who didn't know who he was)
suggesting he is just an actor

john

 

[MattKing]

By the way Stone, if we are talking about the title to this thread, it would be better if it had been:

"'The Color of Money' - What Film Stock was it shot on?"

 

[eclarke]

same here!



evan, you have to be one of the humblest person i have met here in cyber space.
you suggesting you are a cuemaker as a matter of factly and all that
would be like if paul newman was on a photography forum (with people who didn't know who he was)
suggesting he is just an actor

john

I'm just an idiot who knows how to do what I do...