The affordable Leica is never going to happen..

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I associate it now w/ a poser, or wanna be.

its really easy to judge a book by its cover...

Interesting, hipster footwear

bean boots are hipster footwear ?
I guess doc martins are too ?
been wearing docs since 83 and had bean boots in the 70s-80s
when you would trace your foot on a piece of paper and mail it to maine so you didn't have to drive.
too funny

 

[faberryman]

bean boots are hipster footwear ?

I don't know any hipsters personally, but if you look at the photographs of people on the internet who self-identify as hipsters, a lot of them are wearing boots, except that since L.L. Bean boots are really well made and never go out of style, no one donates them to Goodwill, so hipsters can't get L.L. Bean boots, and the boots hipsters wear are usually just poorly made knock offs which are readily available at the local thrift shop. As I understand it, it takes more than wearing boots to be a hipster, but I don't know what the other stuff is on the dress code, but I think you have to adhere to it pretty strictly, which is not to say I haven't seen photographs of self-identifying hipsters wearing sneakers, but I don't know what kind they are, maybe P.F. Flyers, but I'm not sure. Then there is the whole approach to life thing, but I don't know anything about that. Anyway, I think you are probably too old to be a hipster so you are safe wearing your L.L. Bean boots and avoiding all the derision that hipsters have to endure just because they are in their twenties and still finding themselves. I had already found myself by the time I was in my twenties, and sometimes I wish I hadn't, but before that watch out. It was so embarrassing I threw all the analog photographs of me at that age in the trash. Hipsters have to contend with Facebook and Instagram, where no photo is too humiliating not to keep eternally. Let me know if you have any other questions about things I know nothing about and I'll be happy to bring you up to speed.

 

[BrianShaw]

Anyone one wear Dexter shoes…back when they were actually decent shoes? Warren Buffett really screwed the pooch on that one!

 

[faberryman]

Anyone one wear Dexter shoes…back when they were actually decent shoes? Warren Buffett really screwed the pooch on that one!

I even remember Red Rooster shoes because when you bought a pair, they gave you a golden egg full of prizes. Talk about cognitive dissonance. Seems like they should have called them Red Hen shoes, but you know what happens when the marketing department gets involved.

 

[BrianShaw]

In SoCal it seems that Vans would qualify as hipster shoes. Little do most know, they were hip before many hipsters parents were hip. My first pair was in 1968, when the only options were blue, black or white… and so inexpensive that buying a new pair after ruining them while skateboarding wasn’t too much trouble. Biggest problem was that there were only a couple of stores spread all over SoCal. We were blessed to have one, a hut that was only about 100 square feet, in the neighborhood.

Vans, a skateboard, Levi jeans and an instamatic… yup… I was once a hipster! Imagine how much cooler I would have been with a Leica. Not.

 

[Michel Hardy-Vallée]

I heard there is going to be a boycott soon.

That's it! I have been unknowingly boycotting Leica for the last twenty years by not buying their cameras!
I thought I was just cheap, but now I realize now that I had a cause.
I'm pretty sure I had one. Don't I?

 

[Algo después]

Interesting, hipster footwear...

... and if thanks to the snoby impulse of hipsters it is that today we have a second chance for the analogous? Maybe that's their 5 cents so this niche doesn't disappear

(Personally, I have nothing against hipsters, apart from the fact that the prices of some oldie stuff are on the rise, such as cameras)

 

[Huss]

What we need are affordable hipster footwear.

 

[Huss]

Vans, a skateboard, Levi jeans and an instamatic… yup… I was once a hipster! Imagine how much cooler I would have been with a Leica. Not.

But akshully I don't see hipsters on skateboards. The skater-punk ethos is not for them. All that activity would make their mustache wax melt. And it's hard to skate wearing a Fedora - believe me I've tried...

 

[Ko.Fe.]

My Leica works just fine, thank you very much. So does my Zeiss Ikon and my Bessa and my....

Too many cameras and not enough time.

Most of the cameras will works with once in awhile use.

It is a bit of a myth that mechanical cameras will be repairable for a good time. Technicians are retiring and few are taking up the trade, training is not widely accessible and the possibilities for future sustainable income in the business are shrinking.Sure, there will most probably be a handful of technicians who can custom manufacture no longer available parts and work on difficult or rare cameras, but it will cost a relatively small fortune. Even the manufacturers no longer support some of their older, mechanical and electronic cameras. Leica will have nothing to do with my M5, I don't even know if they'd take it in trade for a different model. Add to that, there is a generation of users that doesn't even consider repairing items, preferring to rid themselves of them and getting something newer.

Exactly. Canada is real life example. Old ones are leaving us and here is nobody to replace them. Financially not viable job for young ones.
Maybe newly retired will step in at some point. Or it will be done in cheap labor countries. But parts are big problem.

I'm keeping my M4-2 to have it retrofitted with digital sensor and global, electronic shutter in the not so far from now future.

 

[Ko.Fe.]

The affordable Leica
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IIIc is 300 USD at least. SBOOI - 100 USD, if you lucky. Nokton might be near 400 USD by now, even LTM.
Nearly 1K USD. While in 2020 it was still possible to buy M3 and J3 lens under same price. All film Ms went over 1K USD recently.

 

[Pieter12]

But akshully I don't see hipsters on skateboards. The skater-punk ethos is not for them. All that activity would make their mustache wax melt. And it's hard to skate wearing a Fedora - believe me I've tried...

I think hipsters wear porkpie hats or flat (driving) caps, not fedoras.

 

[faberryman]

I think hipsters wear porkpie hats or flat (driving) caps, not fedoras.

Here is an interesting article entitled "How Hipsters Ruined a Perfectly Good Hat". Spoiler Alert: It says hipsters ruined the fedora. Of course, like most of the stuff on the internet, it's just one guy's opinion.

https://dysfunctionalparrot.com/rants/fedoras-hipsters/

 

[Pieter12]

Here is an interesting article entitled "How Hipsters Ruined a Perfectly Good Hat". Spoiler Alert: It says hipsters ruined the fedora. Of course, like most of the stuff on the internet, it's just one guy's opinion.

https://dysfunctionalparrot.com/rants/fedoras-hipsters/

That guy has it wrong. The hats shown (except for the lead photo) are porkpies, not fedoras.

 

[faberryman]

That guy has it wrong. The hats shown (except for the lead photo) are porkpies, not fedoras.

Well, we can all breathe a big sigh of relief that hipsters didn't ruin the fedora. I feel better already. I'll let the incomparable Charles Mingus lead us out with a rendition of his Goodbye Pork Pie Hat.

 

[Algo después]

meanwhile (Just what is it that makes Leica cameras so different, so appealing? ) ...

 

[Huss]

meanwhile (Just what is it that makes Leica cameras so different, so appealing? ) ...

I have to be THAT guy to point out the errors in the writing... The M6 does have a light meter!

If I could count the times that happened to me when I rolled into a store with my M7 - using both hands - I would still have 8 fingers and 2 thumbs left.

 

[Pioneer]

Most of the cameras will works with once in awhile use.


Exactly. Canada is real life example. Old ones are leaving us and here is nobody to replace them. Financially not viable job for young ones.
Maybe newly retired will step in at some point. Or it will be done in cheap labor countries. But parts are big problem.

I'm keeping my M4-2 to have it retrofitted with digital sensor and global, electronic shutter in the not so far from now future.

You are right Ko Fe. 300+ rolls in a year is just getting started. I'll work harder at it this year...

 

[Algo después]

If I could count the times that happened to me when I rolled into a store with my M7 - using both hands - I would still have 8 fingers and 2 thumbs left.

ahahah, so much mythology around the brand. I guess at least people look at you twice.

 

[removed account4]

I don't know any hipsters personally, but if you look at the photographs of people on the internet who self-identify as hipsters, a lot of them are wearing boots, except that since L.L. Bean boots are really well made and never go out of style, no one donates them to Goodwill, so hipsters can't get L.L. Bean boots, and the boots hipsters wear are usually just poorly made knock offs which are readily available at the local thrift shop. As I understand it, it takes more than wearing boots to be a hipster, but I don't know what the other stuff is on the dress code, but I think you have to adhere to it pretty strictly, which is not to say I haven't seen photographs of self-identifying hipsters wearing sneakers, but I don't know what kind they are, maybe P.F. Flyers, but I'm not sure. Then there is the whole approach to life thing, but I don't know anything about that. Anyway, I think you are probably too old to be a hipster so you are safe wearing your L.L. Bean boots and avoiding all the derision that hipsters have to endure just because they are in their twenties and still finding themselves. I had already found myself by the time I was in my twenties, and sometimes I wish I hadn't, but before that watch out. It was so embarrassing I threw all the analog photographs of me at that age in the trash. Hipsters have to contend with Facebook and Instagram, where no photo is too humiliating not to keep eternally. Let me know if you have any other questions about things I know nothing about and I'll be happy to bring you up to speed.

thanks faberryman
sadly I don't currently have bean boots, wish I did.
they used to repair them for as long as you wore them, sadly growing out of them didn't count as a repair.
I didn't know about the hipster creed you are talking about, but I guess I was a hipster before they called them hipsters? shopped at a thrift store that took all the clothes other thrift stores couldn't sell and sold them for rags. they were only open between 6-8m on Saturdays, the building was unmarked, and quite a walk off of mass transit, and it was easy to get lost. you'd show up with a trash bag and stuffed as much clothes as you could .. put it on a scale and paid $1 / lb unless it was half price day then it was 50¢/lb ... no shoes though.
I do tend to wear ripped clothes, not pre-ripped or bought ripped from a thrift store, ripped because I don't really care... does that count?
you got rid of photos of your self from your perspective years? I haven't wanted any photos of myself my whole life, not sure what that means.

 

[mshchem]

That guy has it wrong. The hats shown (except for the lead photo) are porkpies, not fedoras.

What was the hat that Mr White aka Heisenberg wore in Breaking Bad??

 

[Algo después]

I didn't know about the hipster creed you are talking about, but I guess I was a hipster before they called them hipsters?

That some of my preferences are tagged as "hipster" thing does not concern me much either. By the way, I also like indie music and I admit that I am attracted to certain retro issues.

 

[madNbad]

What was the hat that Mr White aka Heisenberg wore in Breaking Bad??

That was a pork pie hat,

 

[davidsyd]

I got back into cameras 2010 and back to film 2 years later.
I had accumulate so few film cameras. Initially had to spend money to get
them CLA. But then realise it was cheaper for me to start work on them myself.

I started with russian rangefinders and gain experience from there.
Now I do all my own CLA and repairs from Folders to Rangefinders, TLR and
will move onto SLR.

I acknowledge Leica mechanical cameras are well made and if service should be
good for few more decades. But its the same with other brands as well. Such as
Contax etc.

I seen a few camera repair person starting up lately and few retire. Lets
hope trend will continue for new learners.

 

[film_man]

Modern day hipsters vs old fart boomers. Sums up half the threads in this place.