The affordable Leica is never going to happen..

Robert Maxey · Aug 10, 2021

MattKing said:
I like the Harmonicats version, myself.

Bob is not a harmonica lover. It is my only flaw. There is perhaps a glimmer of hope because i do so love Buddy Green.

Bob

Robert Maxey · Aug 10, 2021

Sirius Glass said:
My old farts smell better than your old farts!

Do I smell a challenge? I use to breathe glacial acetic and use smelly toners so my smeller is gone. Bring it on.

Bob

MattKing · Aug 10, 2021

Robert Maxey said:
Bob is not a harmonica lover. It is my only flaw. There is perhaps a glimmer of hope because i do so love Buddy Green.

Bob

Robert Maxey · Aug 10, 2021

If you think Leica Cameras are expensive, have a look at ALPA.

Bob

Don_ih · Aug 10, 2021

It's been my experience that "hipster" was a pejorative. I found it odd that people were referring to themselves as hipsters - it's equivalent to referring to yourself as numbnuts.

Pieter12 · Aug 10, 2021

Don Heisz said:
It's been my experience that "hipster" was a pejorative. I found it odd that people were referring to themselves as hipsters - it's equivalent to referring to yourself as numbnuts.

It is now. It wasn't when hipsters were hip.

Don_ih · Aug 11, 2021

Pieter12 said:
It is now. It wasn't when hipsters were hip.

Hipsters were hip until they started calling themselves hipsters. So, right up until about 5 minutes after Ginsberg finished reading Howl at Six Gallery.

film_man · Aug 11, 2021

Hip hip hurray!

faberryman · Aug 11, 2021

Robert Maxey said:
If you think Leica Cameras are expensive, have a look at ALPA.

Does anyone actually use an Alpa? I thought they were just investment vehicles.

Robert Maxey · Aug 11, 2021

faberryman said:
Does anyone actually use an Alpa? I thought they were just investment vehicles.

We had a customer who used one. Not sure of the age, but it was a very nice camera and produced really nice images. Certainly not the costly camera it now is, though. I think they are great but not many multiples of thousands great.

Bob

ChristopherCoy · Aug 11, 2021

Did I miss an entire Leica argument? You know how much I love Leica.

Arthurwg · Aug 11, 2021

faberryman said:
I would rather see Leica reduce the price of its expensive cameras than make an inexpensive camera. Although it is not a perfect metaphor, it is like wanting Range Rover to make an inexpensive Range Rover. They could make an inexpensive Range Rover, but it would be a like a Hyundai, except more expensive than a Hyundai, and you wouldn't want it.

The inexpensive Range Rover is a Land Rover, but I can't afford either.

Huss · Sep 2, 2022

Leica Rumors now say a new Leica film camera will be announced in October 2022, and it is already being tested in field.

I'm saying, if this is true, it is a new Leica Fuji SOFORT.

xkaes · Sep 2, 2022

Arthurwg said:
The inexpensive Range Rover is a Land Rover, but I can't afford either.

Can't afford a Land Rover? Get a Montero -- it's better anyway.

Can't afford a Montero? Get a Sidekick / Tracker -- it's better anyway.

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Pieter12 · Sep 2, 2022

Huss said:
Leica Rumors now say a new Leica film camera will be announced in October 2022, and it is already being tested in field.

I'm saying, if this is true, it is a new Leica Fuji SOFORT.

FWIW, in the past Leica has worked with Minolta for film cameras and Panasonic for digital. Fuji seems to be aligned with Hasselblad.

Don_ih · Sep 2, 2022

Pieter12 said:
FWIW, in the past Leica has worked with Minolta for film cameras and Panasonic for digital. Fuji seems to be aligned with Hasselblad.

Don't forget about the Leica Instax camera.

xkaes · Sep 2, 2022

Here are several affordable Leica models:

Minolta XE-7
Minolta XE-1
Minolta XE
Minolta XE-5
Minolta XEb
Minolta XD-11
Minolta XD-7
Minolta XD

AgX · Sep 2, 2022

On the assumption that the Leitz and Minolta cameras are the same.

Huss · Sep 2, 2022

Don Heisz said:
Don't forget about the Leica Instax camera.

Exactly, that is what the SOFORT is/was. So the only affordable (or new) film camera from Leica that makes sense is a new version of that.

xkaes · Sep 2, 2022

Shall we talk about "Leica" lenses, too?

Don_ih · Sep 2, 2022

Huss said:
Exactly, that is what the SOFORT is/was. So the only affordable (or new) film camera from Leica that makes sense is a new version of that.

I'd forgotten what that was called. With all the bizarre Leica codewords, I assumed you mean some kind of reflex-motor-drive-enlarging-lens-extension-goggle-barn-door-hood-light-meter.....

Huss · Sep 2, 2022

Don Heisz said:
I'd forgotten what that was called. With all the bizarre Leica codewords, I assumed you mean some kind of reflex-motor-drive-enlarging-lens-extension-goggle-barn-door-hood-light-meter.....

When I first heard the name I thought it was made by Ikea.

guangong · Sep 2, 2022

I bought my Leica M4 and wife’s M5 cameras new when they were introduced. Always felt comfortable using them and never considered changing. When M6 was introduced I was having a serious bad problem with vision, and felt that M6 viewfinder fell short compared with M3, 4, or 5. Also, not a fan of diodes. Amortization over 50+ years is not a bad deal. But as I read many threads on APUG, I sense that many have spent a bundle searching for that wonderful budget camera.
I bought my Hassy 2000FCM new around 1981-82. Even as I reluctantly await its destined unrepairable demise, over 40 years use is not a bad deal. Better than jumping from one MF SLR to another hoping to save a few dollars. And with 2000, able to use many Zeiss, Nikon, and Leitz lenses that I already owned. (The Zeiss Olympic Sonnars and Nikon clone also build strong muscles.)

reddesert · Sep 3, 2022

"SOFORT" simply means "instant" or "instantly" in German. That is all.

Huss · Sep 3, 2022

reddesert said:
"SOFORT" simply means "instant" or "instantly" in German. That is all.

Yes, and that is what they named their camera.

The affordable Leica is never going to happen..

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