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Mahler_one

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I have noted that prices for very good Jobo CPE processes have come under $300 on that auction site we all love. Tanks are a few bucks more...couldn't be easier. For roll film developing the lift isn't needed...let me know by PM if you need more help.

Edwin
 

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Continuous agitation will make good negs (I used to do it that way) but my quest was for sharpness. Accutance is improved by stand processing. It takes longer and requires some testing but so does any good process. I like my stand processed negs a lot better. They are a lot sharper - I get great skies - NO blown out highlights - better film speed and more detail in shadows. - and no need to listen to a motor running.
 

B&Wenthusiast

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That's It I've had it!

I am a bit of a pack-rat with little or no extra cash for my hobbies. I always find the money to buy film to feed my cameras and generally have little trouble finding a subject that interests me. However I never seem to have the money or the energy to drive across town and get my film developed at the local pro lab.
This week I finally said I am going to get my backlogs of film that are waiting in the fridge developed. I took 8 rolls of B&W and 4 rolls of E6 in. 60 bucks later and now I am pissed.
The E6 was fine, as it always is. I have never gotten back a bad roll. However my B&W is another story. Mind you all I am not faithful to one brand or emulsion but I am narrowing it down. But that is not the issue here. Of the 8 rolls that I shot one is ruined. Not by my poor shooting habits or other things. The lab hosed it to the max. It is a roll of T-Max 400 that has this big honking black streak down the upper 1/3 of the whole negative. And another roll of my APX 100 has the same issue in a few places. This isn't just a light streak on the TMX it is like someone took a sharpie to it. I know that this is caused from the rollers in the processing machine. I know that it happens from time to time but there is still no excuse to me. I know that I only have to pay $3.50 per roll for development but still this is a pro lab. I am just glad that there aren't any award winning frames on that roll. The APX is a different story. There are about 5 good shots on the roll that I would like to have printed. But I think that I can crop out the black areas as on this roll they are on the very edge of just a couple of the frames.

I called the lab after I got home to let them know and they said that they are very sorry that this happened and that they would check the machine. They even offered me a free replacement roll but I doubt that I will take them up on the offer as it is a hassle to get there before they close as they are only open during the week and I work. Plus they said that they would replace it with the same film and I am finding that I don't like anything shot on TMX.
So Thats It, first extra cash I get I am going to start developing my own B&W. At least if it gets hosed I am to blame and I can use it as a learning experience. Sorry all for the rant but I had to vent and I know all here can relate.

I'm happy to pay $7.99/roll for ours. Must be a really good one - Camera World in Charlotte, NC!
 

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Interesting that you mention stand development. We are getting away from the subject asked on this thread, but I have often read about what you have just stated concerning accutance. However, I haven't seen much objective evidence that stand processing does indeed improve the accutance . If one does careful film testing using densitometers and step tablets then one can determine with a reallly good degree of certainty the developing time for a given subject brightness range such that one can obtain reasonably consistent negatives using the Jobo at a given temperature with a given developer at a specific dilution. No problems with shadow details, or highlights, unless I have done a poor job with my incident metering. Hence, again, I wonder if you might have some references that can point me in the right direction as to objective evidence that compares accutance with stand development versus development with constant agitation-same subject, same subject brightness range, same temperature, same developer at the exact same dilution. Prints made on the same enlarger, same paper, etc., etc. I certainly would like to learn how to make the best prints and negatives that I can, and perhaps stand development would yield better results in some situations. I'm going to move our discussion to another thread so that we can benefit from the experience of those who have also used both stand and agitation developing. Great that you brought the subject up. Thanks.

Edwin
 

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25 years ago I was a stupid teenager who had landed a "paying" gig as a concert photographer for our local big shows. ("Paying" meaning free tickets.)
Second show out of the gate (Rod Stewart, maybe?) I had a lab screw up the film. Been doing 90% of mine since-all the B&w and E-6, but I will run some c-41 snapshot stuff to Mal-Wart.

Once you get set up, it's a breeze, and a great way to destress. After 20 years I broke down and bought a second hand Jobo off of ebay-Dear Sweet Lord in Heaven! Step outside to smoke while running film? Who'd of thought it possible?

Oh, but it's addictive. I think in the long run a Heroin habit would have been
cheaper.
 
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