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I am recently moving to Europe and I just found that the manufacturer discontinued this E6 - I have been developing film and making kit by myself since several years ago, but these two years I am getting busy with my work so I get my films developed by professional.
I am looking into developing film by myself again but I am tired of making developer kits - it's complicated, requires a lot of pH adjusting steps.
Just now I just googled to find out the reason why we cannot purchase any Tetenal kits and found this thread, I have one E6 recipe, which I believe is very close to the Tetenal 4-step version, First develop, Second develop, Blix and stabilization. But in my hand it's not very stable because I don't like pH adjusting very much - it's very exhausting to get the working solution to ~12, and it's kind of toxic while I am making it in home without proper PPE.
I can contribute with my recipe and please feel free to reach me if it can make any help.
But I don't want to just post it in this thread - in some area people would just stole my recipe and make profit out of it in a way I don't like.
 

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The 24th of May (2024) has been and gone.

The chemistry is mixed, bottled and ready to be packaed but we face a delay in the supply of the outer cartons.


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How frustrating! I guess you need patience to be a manufacturer. Amazon is apparently using the World's cardboard for its packaging.
 

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Amazon is apparently using the World's cardboard for its packaging.

Cardboard has become a bit of a bottleneck material due to the sustained growth of online shopping and overall growth in logistics volumes.

The chemistry is mixed, bottled and ready to be packaed

Looking good! Many people are going to be very, very happy with this. How to get consumer-volume C41 chemistry is one of the most often-asked questions in relation to color processing at the moment.
 

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That's brilliant, great for the analogue photo community. Thank you.

Roll on the E6 kit!
 
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That's brilliant, great for the analogue photo community. Thank you.

Roll on the E6 kit!

Alreday on its way and in our shop....https://www.fotoimpex.com/chemistry/adox-c-tec-e-6-3-bath-kit-for-12-films-to-mix-1000-ml.html
 
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Sorry if I'm out of the loop here: how Adox able to offer all this chemistry in the poll? Did you acquire the recipes to all of Tetenal's products somehow?
 

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Perhaps Adox themselves will respond, but it seems that the kits (C41 already available, E6 listed on website) are identical to the Tetenal versions. I assume any contractual/financial details of the transfer to Adox are confidential. But Adox, as is their tradition, are providing a great service to the analogue community, giving us more choice in home processing colour film.

I used the Tetenal E6 kit for several years, but am now using the Bellini 6/7-bath given the unavailability of the Tetenal kit. (I tried the Cinestill E6, but did not like it.) I'll probably go back to the 3/4-bath E6 when it's available, although honestly we are spoilt for choice, both the 6/7 bath and 3/4 bath kits gave excellent results for me. (As an aside, the kits are marketed as "3-bath" or "6-bath" but they are actually 4-bath and 7-bath ..... the additional "stabiliser" step in not optional!)

Now all we need is for Provia 100f to be more easily available ... and perhaps Kodak (or someone) might bring out a new transparency film ... one can always dream.
 

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Perhaps Adox themselves will respond, but it seems that the kits (C41 already available, E6 listed on website) are identical to the Tetenal versions. I assume any contractual/financial details of the transfer to Adox are confidential. But Adox, as is their tradition, are providing a great service to the analogue community, giving us more choice in home processing colour film.

I used the Tetenal E6 kit for several years, but am now using the Bellini 6/7-bath given the unavailability of the Tetenal kit. (I tried the Cinestill E6, but did not like it.) I'll probably go back to the 3/4-bath E6 when it's available, although honestly we are spoilt for choice, both the 6/7 bath and 3/4 bath kits gave excellent results for me. (As an aside, the kits are marketed as "3-bath" or "6-bath" but they are actually 4-bath and 7-bath ..... the additional "stabiliser" step in not optional!)

Now all we need is for Provia 100f to be more easily available ... and perhaps Kodak (or someone) might bring out a new transparency film ... one can always dream.

Thanks so much for this! I agree: I went to Bellini for both c-41 and e-6 when I ran out of Tetenal and have been happy but will certainly try Adox.

Please: why, with modern films, is the stabilizer not optional? I'm a chemistry dolt.
 

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Thanks so much for this! I agree: I went to Bellini for both c-41 and e-6 when I ran out of Tetenal and have been happy but will certainly try Adox.

Please: why, with modern films, is the stabilizer not optional? I'm a chemistry dolt.

I'm sure someone more knowledgable than me will answer that ... but both Bellini and Tetenal/Adox do provide "stabiliser" (I don't think its just Photo-Flo), so according to their instructions, it's not optional.
 

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I'm sure someone more knowledgable than me will answer that ... but both Bellini and Tetenal/Adox do provide "stabiliser" (I don't think its just Photo-Flo), so according to their instructions, it's not optional.

I've skipped that stabilizer step with each with no obvious penalty. But I scan my negatives and (gasp!) throw most of them out after that.
 

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I've skipped that stabilizer step with each with no obvious penalty. But I scan my negatives and (gasp!) throw most of them out after that.

There can be long term effects, so nothing that you could spot right away.
 

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There can be long term effects, so nothing that you could spot right away.

That's what I suspect, though the common wisdom has been that modern films do not require the stabilizers included in these kits. What is it about Bellini chemistry that makes its use more important?
 

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That's what I suspect, though the common wisdom has been that modern films do not require the stabilizers included in these kits. What is it about Bellini chemistry that makes its use more important?

There are two different things: stabilisers and final rinses. Modern C41 films don't need a stabiliser, but a final rinse, which is basically a wetting agent combined with a fungicide. It doesn't stabilise dyes, but protects the film. E6 films on the other hand need some sort of dye stabiliser in the processing chain. In a 7 bath kit, this is likely in the prebleach bath, but the simplified 4 bath kits have a stabiliser as the final bath.
 

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There are two different things: stabilisers and final rinses. Modern C41 films don't need a stabiliser, but a final rinse, which is basically a wetting agent combined with a fungicide. It doesn't stabilise dyes, but protects the film. E6 films on the other hand need some sort of dye stabiliser in the processing chain. In a 7 bath kit, this is likely in the prebleach bath, but the simplified 4 bath kits have a stabiliser as the final bath.

Thanks. Although I add my own final rinse, this will change my darkroom habits for e-6.
 
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