The thing I cannot help wondering is how processing labs are dealing with their increase in business and, at the same time, the difficulty obtaining chemicals? It feels sometimes like analog is trying hard to come back and, at the same time, the industry is killing itself between the high costs of films (mainly Kodak) and the difficultly of having sufficient supplies of chemicals in packages large enough for commercial labs. No doubt having another company producing larger packages of C-41 and RA-4 would help matters.Like I said, you can answer (after registering- sorry for that I can´t open the forum). Or just answer here
No doubt having another company producing larger packages of C-41 and RA-4 would help matters.
I haven't followed the topic. Tetenal has already been revived by a reboot of former employees. Did that fail now too?
I haven't followed the topic. Tetenal has already been revived by a reboot of former employees. Did that fail now too?
Their site is still available:
It all looks very lively there.
I love Tetenal 3-bath e6 but recently I found Ilford 3-bath e6, to a certain extent, it replaced the Tetenal's
Seeing their site still online:Emails to info@tetenal.com and orders@tetenal.com (which worked 3 months ago) now bounce.
There's absolutely no sign of major labs facing a shortage of C41 and RA4 chemistry. Firms like Fuji Hunt are pumping out this chemistry by the metric ton - literally. I'm saying this because your argument seems to rely on the logic that firms like Adox might be a bottleneck in the growth of the analog photography industry.
One notable problem with this argument is that to a large extent, this analog revival revolves around color film, and the majority share of this color film is processed by labs. These labs vary in size from tiny one-man operations that may run only a couple of dozen rolls/week to reasonably sizeable ones that run thousands of rolls/ week. Basically every lab that uses minilabs or even larger processing machines (RT/continuous, dip & dunk) use chemistry from manufacturers like Fuji and Champion, and certainly not from Adox. Adox is very good at catering to the requirements of home users, which is typically a high-mix/low-volume business. The low-mix/high-volume business that still processes the bulk of the film shot today is a different realm. There's no bottleneck there. Quite the opposite: that part of the spectrum is characterized by still massive overcapacity.
I don't know how Ilford is managing their chemistry business??? Maybe Harman could get into the business??
My statement was a general one not directed at Adox in the least.
Ilford 3-bath E6??? Can you provide a link please?
What do you mean? Ilford Photo = Harman.
Ah, I see. It seemed to me that you did direct your post at Adox, since you quoted them.
Ah, names. I only meant that since I understand that Tetenal produced Ilford branded black and white chemistry for Harman Technology in Germany, that maybe Harman should make their own chemistry like the old days.
An Ilfosol 3 bottle that I bought in summer from Fotoimpex, next to one I bought last month.
It looks like Harman is not producing it in-house in Mobberly, since it says "made in EU".
An Ilfosol 3 bottle that I bought in summer from Fotoimpex, next to one I bought last month.
It looks like Harman is not producing it in-house in Mobberly, since it says "made in EU". The Amsterdam address most likely just is a postbox with no real office.
The Harman Technology BV was founded in august last year and "Harman Limited UK" is mentioned as executive. The "branche codes" are "manufacturing of optical equipment" and "manufacturing of computers and related hardware"
Harman have never made any of the chemicals at Mobberly. I don't know when the pre-Harman Ilford manufactured them at Mobberly, and when they started contracting out manufacture.
The Amsterdam address most likely just is a postbox with no real office.
This is possibly more for our european customers but because we have to assume that Tetenal is never coming back, we started a little poll which products are missed the most by you guys.
This helps us to focus on what to possibly bring back first.
Link to poll (German)
Ultrafin T+Plus looks like a TMax developer type
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