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Test of Rollei Retro 100 Tonal against AGFA APX100

Will Rollei Retro 100 Tonal be the heir of AGFA APX100?

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kompressor

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Panatomic-X, Technical Pan and Rollei Retro 100 Tonal in a "shoot out"
I prefer to shoot film instead of debating with conservatives

I have been out shoting som more film for finding out how it reacts to different combos.
Today it was Kodak Technical Pan, Kodak Panatomic-X and Rollei Retro 100 Tonal in my bag. All in 120.

Technical Pan shot at ISO 20 developed in Rodinal 1+300, Panatomic-X shot at ISO 20 developed in Rodinal 1+50 and Retro 100 Tonal shot at ISO 50 developed in Rodinal 1+300

The 3 first links are re-sized and sharpened shots to show the object:


Tonal: http://www.tmax100.com/photo/panx_tp_tonal/tonal.jpg
Panatomic-X: http://www.tmax100.com/photo/panx_tp_tonal/panx.jpg
Tech Pan: http://www.tmax100.com/photo/panx_tp_tonal/techpan.jpg

The next 3 links are 100% crop of the nameplate on the right corner of this object taken from the pictures in the 3 first links at full size:

Tonal: http://www.tmax100.com/photo/panx_tp_tonal/tonal_uts1.jpg
Panatomic-X: http://www.tmax100.com/photo/panx_tp_tonal/panx_uts1.jpg
Tech Pan: http://www.tmax100.com/photo/panx_tp_tonal/techpan_uts1.jpg

All the shots above are done with Hasselblad 500C and a 150mm Carl Zeiss T* F4 on F8

The next 3 are 100% crop with Hasselblad 500C 150mm Carl Zeiss T* F4 on F8 with 55mm extension tube. Distance from wall 60-70 cm:

Tonal: http://www.tmax100.com/photo/panx_tp_tonal/tonal_uts2.jpg
Panatomic-X: http://www.tmax100.com/photo/panx_tp_tonal/panx_uts2.jpg
Tech Pan: http://www.tmax100.com/photo/panx_tp_tonal/techpan_uts2.jpg
 

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kompressor said:
I have been out shoting som more film for finding out how it reacts to different combos.
Today it was Kodak Technical Pan, Kodak Panatomic-X and Rollei Retro 100 Tonal in my bag. All in 120.
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Oh my! You would have to remind me how much I miss Panatomic-X and Technical Pan...


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Nice examples.

Well I took some time for a walk along the river Maas.

Here my example, now on 35mm, equipment: Leica M7 + Summicron 2,0/50mm
Retro 100 Tonal film, E.I. 50 in CG512/RLS 1+4 for 14:00 minutes, 24C. An easy development (= room temperature) on the attic due to the warm weather.



In my Flickr stream on other formats.
3200 dpi V500 scan.
 

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I have just printed a 4x5 negative on Foma MG131 30x40 cm.

Tonal was developped in PMK. Print was selenium toned.
 

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More from the beautiful docks of Molde, Norway. Rollei Retro 100 Tonal in Rodinal 1+300 semi-standdevelopment 30 min. Film @iso 25 1/125 F8
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I feel like I am an amateur again

Indeed great results.
 

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kompressor said:
If you cant see any highlights, by you self a new computerscreen or learn to operate the one you have.
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komp: The highlights are definitely blown out my friend. But in a way that seems overdeveloped.
 
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Clayne: They ere definitely not blown. Left side is light leak. You are judging a small jpg. Its information in the highlights. In a wetprint i can be printed from black to paper white if so is requested.
 

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Kompressor,

The seemingly consistent white spots on the Tonal images would drive me nuts, and throw out the film. If I understand you correctly it only happens on the Tonal film?

(reminds me of the scratches on the Foma 120 film I have tested for Sander or emulsion less spots on many of my MACO IR 4*5 film negatives, printing as ugly black holes: these are examples of less than optimal QC to put it mildly..)

Best,

Cor
 
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It IS the water, I also tested them out. With simple demi water you do not have it. BTW I did not have them with AM74 (in tap water) or CG512 as well. With Rodinal the "problem" is there. Not sure where it's comming from.

Left side is light leak
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You have to keep the roll straight and tight when unloading. Polyester tends to unroll so tight and closing the end strip. Otherwise you will have a light leak on Polyester film material (Foma, Efke, Rollei aso.) .

Polyester has advantages and disadvantages but this Polyester film lays down very straight where Fomapan 100/400 and Efke 25-50-100 on 120 rollfilm (Polyester) is curling much.

Next Tonal film is on adventures Ravenstein 650 years, incl. a battle field near the river Maas. E.I. 100. 667 RF camera.
 

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Schröder CEO Rollei-Maco company:


So it's comming from the very fresh emulsion.

Wie bei jeder anderen Emulsionsgattung, die orthochromatische Sensibilisierungsstoffe enthält,
neigt eine sehr frisch gegossene Emulsion zu einer gewissen Sensibilität gegenüber Kalk im Wasser.
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It is the (orthochromatic) sensitizer in fresh emulsion extra sensitive for calcium and materials (e.g. iron) in the tap water.
 
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Robert,

Schroeder had it about Calcium, not Calgon.
 
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