Teaching High School Photography Online

[Andrew O'Neill]

...isn't fun, especially when the program I normally teach is 90% analogue. Teaching online sadly offers the opportunity for some kids to be academically dishonest (we're not allowed to say cheat...). A couple of my students sent in images they obviously ripped off of the internet. A quick google image check, and boom! Busted!

 

[MattKing]

A couple of my students sent in images they obviously ripped off of the internet. A quick google image check, and boom! Busted!

Sounds like a teachable moment to me .
You should share a course outline with us - we might have some suggestions

 

[Pioneer]

People often look for the easiest way out and if no one seems to be watching we sometimes try it, particularly when we were younger and particularly if the reward seems worth it. Good teachers are alert for this and will use it as a learning opportunity for their students. Keep up the good work Andrew.

 

[Andrew O'Neill]

Sounds like a teachable moment to me .
You should share a course outline with us - we might have some suggestions

Oh yes it certainly was a teachable moment. I went to town with it, believe me! The project I shared with them was a visual interpretation of isolation. What it means to them. Four photos.

 

[Andrew O'Neill]

People often look for the easiest way out and if no one seems to be watching we sometimes try it, particularly when we were younger and particularly if the reward seems worth it. Good teachers are alert for this and will use it as a learning opportunity for their students. Keep up the good work Andrew.

Thank you, Pioneer. I was just as bad when I was in high school. I plagarised an entire chapter in my history class once. Too lazy to do the work. My teacher nailed me good. To this day, he still can't believe I became a teacher! Miracles do happen!

 

[jmdavis]

This is a thing I have never understood. Even from a risk analysis POV, it doesn't make sense.

 

[Andrew O'Neill]

This is a thing I have never understood. Even from a risk analysis POV, it doesn't make sense.

Teaching online? If that is what you mean, I totally agree, especially for hands on stuff that I teach. Studio arts, ceramics, and photography.

 

[removed account4]

Andrew .. they weren't photographs YOU took were they ? makes me laugh ... sometimes when I read about lazy @$$ students who buy pre-written essays/research papers online or from the back of some magazine, and it turns out to be written by the teacher teaching the class... (urban legend ? ).
Limbic System in the brain isn't quite formed. Teenagers (through about 30 ) are kind of ... how do you say it ...not the sharpest knife on the Christmas Tree ?
Distance learning kind of makes me laugh a little with these zoom classes these days, you click the bottom of the screen to share your desktop. Students seem to forget that it is best not to be sharing your screen when you are on a "the birds and the bees/ biologic" website / video site ...

 

[MattKing]

This is a thing I have never understood. Even from a risk analysis POV, it doesn't make sense.

I expect you are referring to closing down the schools to avoid spread of the COVID-19 pandemic.
Kids and teenagers will spread things like this as much or more than any other segment of society.

 

[removed account4]

I expect you are referring to closing down the schools to avoid spread of the COVID-19 pandemic.
Kids and teenagers will spread things like this as much or more than any other segment of society.

..and they are without realizing it. they say that many teenagers are currently asymptomatic carriers / spreaders

 

[Andrew O'Neill]

I expect you are referring to closing down the schools to avoid spread of the COVID-19 pandemic.
Kids and teenagers will spread things like this as much or more than any other segment of society.

I was waiting for my wife at the skytrain station this afternoon, near my house. Several kids were together, skateboarding. Zero physical distancing go on at all.

 

[mohmad khatab]

I am a big child.
May I join this class?

 

[RalphLambrecht]

...isn't fun, especially when the program I normally teach is 90% analogue. Teaching online sadly offers the opportunity for some kids to be academically dishonest (we're not allowed to say cheat...). A couple of my students sent in images they obviously ripped off of the internet. A quick google image check, and boom! Busted!

I'm not a big fan of online courses anyway there's nothing like the realinteraction between teacher and student.

 

[Andrew O'Neill]

I'm not a big fan of online courses anyway there's nothing like the realinteraction between teacher and student.

I'm not a fan at all. There government here under normal times, uses it only to save money. What really shakes my head is the online PE class. Kids cheat like mad.
On a brighter note, I just had a conversation with the VP incharge with scheduling for next school year, and my numbers for photography are steady, and could go up. WOO HOO! Fingers crossed we don't start the new year still social distancing!

 

[MattKing]

I am a big child.
May I join this class?

Andrew,
Maybe this is an opportunity to increase your FTEs!

 

[jmdavis]

I expect you are referring to closing down the schools to avoid spread of the COVID-19 pandemic.
Kids and teenagers will spread things like this as much or more than any other segment of society.

No, I am referring to cheating, plagiarism and laziness. I saw some of that when I went back to school to finish my degree in 2000. I was working a full time job managing a systems team and taking 2 classes each semester.

As an example in the photo classs that I took 50% of the students failed to show up for critiques with flattened, spotted, and mounted prints. It was as if they had no desire to technically master the art and not much desire to make art period. I have a Bfa in photography and filmmaking with an emphasis on film.

In all honesty I saw many of the same issues in humanities and information systems graduate courses.

 

[MattKing]

No, I am referring to cheating, plagiarism and laziness. I saw some of that when I went back to school to finish my degree in 2000. I was working a full time job managing a systems team and taking 2 classes each semester.

As an example in the photo classs that I took 50% of the students failed to show up for critiques with flattened, spotted, and mounted prints. It was as if they had no desire to technically master the art and not much desire to make art period. I have a Bfa in photography and filmmaking with an emphasis on film.

In all honesty I saw many of the same issues in humanities and information systems graduate courses.

Thanks for the clarification.
I expect that those who engage in that sort of behaviour - cheating, plagiarism and laziness - are the last to engage in any sort of risk analysis in the first place.
Andrew teaches high school, and therefore deals with students of wildly varying levels of experience and maturity, so it may very well be that the most valuable thing he can teach/impress is the idea that there are consequences to doing things the lazy way.

 

[pentaxuser]

Thanks for the clarification.
I expect that those who engage in that sort of behaviour - cheating, plagiarism and laziness - are the last to engage in any sort of risk analysis in the first place.
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Unfortunately some of the criminal classes( a broad church of classes these days) whose stock-in-trade is one, two or all three of the above behaviours do engage in serious risk analysis and thus make it pay handsomely

pentaxuser