So for color professional films, will Fujifilm bring anything back for Global markets? (And for USA customers willing to pay the tariffs?)
But now you are talking about collective punishment. It seems to me that is when everyone loses.
It could be that no one at Kodak personally supports the tariffs. Just that you would be punishing one of the most important companies left in analog photography.
I was referring to your suggestion that "manufacturing of a wide variety of products moved offshore to places with lower labor cost and looser environmental/labor regulations." This is certainly unfortunately true, but what I was saying is that analog photography is a rare field that has not outsourced manufacturing to countries with little or no environmental regulation and low wages. Most of the analog photography equipment, film, paper, and chemicals are still manufactured by the traditional companies in their longtime locations.
So, in that case, I'll go back to Kodak to avoid the tarrif. That is the whole idea.
The tariffs will effect us from digital cameras and film to paper and chemicals. I am not happy about the tariffs especially because it will take years even decades to build new factories and the overseas labor rates will always be lower than in the US.
What US-made gelatin silver paper will you print those negatives on?
But now you are talking about collective punishment. It seems to me that is when everyone loses.
It could be that no one at Kodak personally supports the tariffs. Just that you would be punishing one of the most important companies left in analog photography.
Of course, there are other film stocks, and you are free to choose those if you prefer, and support your favorites.
Maybe Kodak will open a new coating line in Canada or Europe. I think that is one of the purposes with these unilateral tariffs, to motivate companies to relocate.
If you follow the news... there's been quite a strong but quiet resistance....
Kentucky bourbon has been removed from many shelves in many provinces.... grocery shoppers are choosing goods by country of origin.
We're no one's 51 state. Every buyer get to vote with their dollars. I've used Kodak films for decades......now i've switched to Ilford.....
oh well, there's a guy with 99% of the work done (a full coating facility avalailable and a working formulation for a sought-after emulsion) that cannot coat paper because the final cost would be too high.My post was merely a response to the very first post. Your question should be addressed to that person. There may very well be an adjustment to trade tariffs all across the board to things having nothing to do with photo supplies other than in the broadest sense. The price of widgets and the price of flanges are 2 entirely unrelated markets, other that the fact hey both contribute to the rise and fall of tides, which in turn raises or lowers all ships. Who knows, maybe some small group of Canadians will get mad at the tariff talk and set up a 36 inch wide film coating and slitting line in a vacant rental building of modest size and make film and paper that rivals Kodak with their huge 15 foot wide coating machines. But what do I know? Apparently there's anger out there or this thread would not have been started. Anger can be a useful motivator. One thing's for sure. I've resorted to Xray film and coating cyanotype paper to escape the present prices on the good stuff.
Where would Kodak get the capital or even find sufficient demand to expand production in another country at this time? We talking about a significant season of trade chaos arriving upon us, given the highly unpredictable key player involved. It's getting very difficult right now to reasonably estimate necessary expenses. Nobody with a brain in their head is going to loan an already underfunded manufacturing entity a dime under those circumstances.
I worry that the price increase of Fuji slide film in the US will reduce sales and that will mean Fuji discontinue the films as unviable as they've done with so many others.
Right, but as you have noticed, those have gotten their own tariff. Those are not raw materials, but processed materials that are among those they are trying to encourage to be manufactured in the US. I am not saying that this is a good or bad idea, just that it is how I understand the approach they are proposing.
It is not just digital cameras, film, paper and chemicals. The bigger picture is something to worry about.
Outdoor equipment is majority manufactured in China, Vietnam (among, Patagonia, The North Face, Keen, etc.), plus some specialist equipment in many parts of Europe (e.g. Bosnia-Herzegovina, is an emergent and excellent manufacturing hub for apparel). All the stuff (make your list!) you take for granted as essential for your endeavours in photography — yeah, film, but also tripods, raincoats, packs, boots, sunglasses, tents, sleeping bags...the list is a very long one, will be affected by price rises that many people just will not be able to afford, unless there is a significant jump in wages or active, continuous discounting. Stuff about photography and materials is a very, very small part of the overall bigger picture. But, so be it. The US is setting itself up for a recession and job losses on a scale never imagined before. Might also be the death knell of NATO and looking ahead in Australia we are now not regarding the US as a friend, and will likely review the AUKUS submarine agreement.
except US have close to full employment rate and is kicking away a decent amount of unregistered people that used to work.
So, when all these new fancy factories will be ready (in 5-10 years), where will they find people to run them?
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