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If i want to shoot film for paid work i have to subsidize it myself, clients pay for materials they can handle and distribute themselves which is to say digital files.

None of my clients are willing to pay for film costs anymore. For some jobs i shoot 35mm Tri-X, but its hard to justify and often turn over times dont allow for it anyway.
 
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Well Done.! :smile:

If i want to shoot film for paid work i have to subsidize it myself, clients pay for materials they can handle and distribute themselves which is to say digital files.

None of my clients are willing to pay for film costs anymore. For some jobs i shoot 35mm Tri-X, but its hard to justify and often turn over times dont allow for it anyway.
That is probably a very common synopsis. :smile:
There is always a Niche example of the opposite, but it is the exception and not the rule.
Just the way it is now......and i am a bona fide "Film Snob" :cool:
 

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The Korean firm of "Matin" makes new plastic slide mounts in 35mm, 6x4.5, 6x6 and 6x7, as well as an illuminated film cutter. You can find them on THAT site: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Matin-Slid...hash=item27d4e1570f:m:mD6PLesvXOC627GpmEqwv1Q
I realize these people are in business, they are Not idiots.
But wow, how much demand is there for slide mounts...especially bigger than 35mm.?
There must be a lot more than i am surmising.
All said..... it's kind of refreshing to see. :smile:
 

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I realize these people are in business, they are Not idiots.
But wow, how much demand is there for slide mounts...especially bigger than 35mm.?
There must be a lot more than i am surmising.
All said..... it's kind of refreshing to see. :smile:

If you examine their various auctions, they appear to be doing pretty good business, so it is an encouraging sign...
 

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Matin's slide cutters work really well - for negatives as well.
 

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I never switched, I just started using it at a newspaper in 1995 and have always used film too.

It got pretty good around 2006-2008 when all was full frame and 12MP, good ISO 3200. Funny thing, now that I have my dream darkroom I actually love digital, because it made my darkroom, my home and all that film equipment financially possible. And now with three Nikon Z mirrorless cameras and even a drone with a 1" sensor, it's all just so much fun....film, silver prints, digital, huge murals for clients, by far my best year ever in photography in terms of fun and income.

Film, digital, at this point it's all good man, really.
 

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Easy credit must have played a part. When most working class people couldn't have got a loan to buy a Rollei or a Hassy, becoming a mf pro needed serious cash.

Servicing the debt for digital must have looked good on paper, less than the spend on consumables. Then the wannabes got easy credit too and everyone was a photographer.
 

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Lol, love that one! I will definitely remember (and use) it! Thanks!
You will remember the original better, Churchill once shared a train carriage with a very attractive young lady and asked her " would have sex with me for a pound? to which the outraged girl replied " how dare you, what sort of a woman do you think I am?, wherein Churchill replied "madam I know what sort of woman you, are, we are just haggling about the price!
 
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You will remember the original better, Churchill once shared a train carriage with a very attractive young lady and asked her " would have sex with me for a pound? to which the outraged girl replied to him " how dare you, what sort of a woman do you think I am?, wherein Churchill replied "madam I know what sort of woman you, are, we are just haggling about the price !
I believe that you have that one just a bit wrong - it is missing a critical line. It has also been attributed to many famous people, not just Winston Churchill.
Some discussion here (and a Canadian reference): https://quoteinvestigator.com/2012/03/07/haggling/
 

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I believe that you have that one just a bit wrong - it is missing a critical line. It has also been attributed to many famous people, not just Winston Churchill.
Some discussion here (and a Canadian reference): https://quoteinvestigator.com/2012/03/07/haggling/
That's how I remember it but it was about fifty years ago when I heard it, and my memory isn't all it used to be. I'm sorry if I got it wrong.
 

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That's how I remember it but it was about fifty years ago when I heard it, and my memory isn't all it used to be. I'm sorry if I got it wrong.


Only one mistake in fifty years is really quite a good record.
 

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That's how I remember it but it was about fifty years ago when I heard it, and my memory isn't all it used to be. I'm sorry if I got it wrong.
Actually, if you think about it, your version here must be missing a critical part - the first question (something like "would you live with me for a million pounds?") and the corresponding answer ("I guess I would have to consider it").
Or something similar.
 
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It always amazes me how normally polite people seem to think it's OK to mock someone's choice of camera, car, other gadget, etc. More than once I've been tempted to reply by paraphrasing something Churchill was supposed to have said, along the lines of "I know you don't like my camera......I TBH, I don't like your face, but I can buy a new camera tomorrow!"
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He was commenting on a woman's beauty..... or rather her lack of it.

"Mr Prime Minister, i think that you are quite drunk."
to which he replied....."Madam, you are correct, i am quite drunk. However, in the morning i will be quite sober - (but you will still be quite.......")

Over time, these things get repeated and twisted every which way. Who knows what Churchill actually said, or if the incidence(s) involved him at all.


The classic Rock & Roll version of this Churchill thing was -
Jimi Hendrix on the Dick Cavett Show.
At one point Cavett asked him... "So, how does it feel to be the worlds greatest guitar player.?"
To that, Hendrix replied..... "I don't know.You would have to ask Terry Kath".

Is that what Hendrix actually said, or did that conversation even take place.?
Who knows.....but the stories are great to tell and re-tell. :smile:
 

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2006 is probably as good a tipping point date as any but it really was a gradual evolution. Anecdotally, I was in an industrial photography job and shot film and scanned with a leaf 45 for things that needed to be presented in digital format (this around 1998, and there weren't that many) while continuing to do c prints and e6 for some other applications. As the transition progressed from slide presentation to power point, and the print shop went from process camera to photoshop pre press and video went from CRT to hi def, and color c printing to dye sub to inkjet, digital still cameras got better too. The canon 10d was my first digital camera that was capable of delivering adequate quality for a majority of the types of things I had to shoot, even if I never did get used to the half frame. The 5d was the answer to that issue, for me anyway. I no longer do photography for money so now I mostly use film capture. Production schedules in professional work are so compressed as to make using film near impossible.
 
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