Support for 350mm f/5.6 Tele-Tessar CF?

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My 350 CF does not have a tripod foot (interesting that the 350 Superachromat DOES???). Is there a lens clamp that will allow me to move the mounting point from the 501CM base plate forward to the actual balance point of the body/A12/350 CF combo? As manufactured, when on a tripod, there is stress on the lens flange that can be destructive over time. Handheld is an option, but the 350 with 2X would need at least a 1/700th shutter speed; and that is not possible with the installed shutter. Could go to a 200-series and use that focal plane shutter, but tripod-mounted is my preference. Thank you for any and all ideas!
 

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You could possibly adapt something like a Bogen Magic Arm. And there are generic telephoto lens supports that attach to the front leg of the tripod. I haven't used one but a company called Really Right Stuff comes to mind.
 

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I designed my own and had a machine shop make it. It cost $60 and is very sturdy and adjustable
 

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Here’s a picture of it
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You could possibly adapt something like a Bogen Magic Arm. And there are generic telephoto lens supports that attach to the front leg of the tripod. I haven't used one but a company called Really Right Stuff comes to mind.

Mark, Thank you for the ideas. Really Right Stuff has been responsible for my BH-55 (actually I have 2 now--they are THAT good), and I will search through their website again. Bill
 
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I designed my own and had a machine shop make it. It cost $60 and is very sturdy and adjustable

Jeffrey, what a super solution! Are you using it with a 350 CF? Would you be willing to share the design docs? I have a Really Right Stuff Arca Swiss style plate secured to the base of my 501CM to allow my RRS BH-55 ball head to be used. 🤔. I will be making mine in oak (heavy but strong) since building furniture is another passion (photography, music, and wood working keep me away from the TV 😆). I will post images when it comes to the front of the project queue.
 

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Years ago, there were some 3rd party solutions out there that gripped it forward of the focus ring, I got one soon after getting my 350 CF and it has worked great. Now that I have a SA 350mm CFe, I'll be selling the CF with the collar soon.
 
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I already have the 350 CF, but if you could part with just the collar, we might come to an agreement. Could you post a picture of the collar?
Is the SA as incredible as I've heard? Your thoughts and impressions would be of real interest! Thanks 😎
 

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I did see one from China at one time, but that was a long time ago.
 

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If you are still looking, I'm using a Manfrotto 3420 bracket for my 350mm lens on a tripod with my Hasselblad. It works perfectly for what you need!
 

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I have the collar and I don’t like it. It’s too narrow and am worried lens barrel will suffer if I leave it on for too long. From taking load back at body to loading it up way forward, either way it’s no good. They surely dropped the ball on that 350, but that’s Hasselblad forgetting their brains in a few places.

The only way to go is something like this. I’ve not tried it yet. But the idea is there.
 
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Hassasin, amazing! That is the same conceptual approach needed, and I just ordered one--based on your super-helpful suggestion. 🫡
Once it arrives, I will post an image in case other 350 owners have the same need. The 350 SA, at about five times the price, does have an integral mounting point; but buying film, chemistry, paper, and other necessities can be managed quite well with the $4,500 difference NOT spent on the SA.
Thank you for your much-appreciated research!
 

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If you are still looking, I'm using a Manfrotto 3420 bracket for my 350mm lens on a tripod with my Hasselblad. It works perfectly for what you need!
NeverMind. The Newar bracket may be just the thing for you. Please post how well it works!
 

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Bill I posted a picture on the page above. It is a simple design An aluminum bar with slots to hold a tripod quick connect and the Hasselblad quick connect. Also the two piece collar that the machine shop made to exactly fit the lens barrel which is adjustable as held to the bar incase I want to use a tele extender. The upper and lower parts of the collar are connected to each other with nuts and bolts that can be hand tightened The lower collar part has a threaded screw permanently attached that fits through a slot and is tightened with a wing nut. All the parts can be disassembled if desired to take up less space in a camera bag or used with a different tripod. You could also have different collars for different lenses. Any decent machine shop should be able to make it. I did this some years ago and at that time they charged $60.
 

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Just to add my 350 has a tapered barrel so they had to match the collar to it.
 
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Jeffreyg, your earlier image got my brain working, and I was about to make one of oak and some RRS components.
Heading out to the shop yesterday, I decided to check my email--and there was the suggestion from Hassasin!
A few days ago, I purchased a RRS collar for the Nikkor 80-400, and that (with a guillotine-like plate to hold the lens barrel inside the collar) may still work.
Now there are at least three viable options to support my 350 without over-stressing the lens mount on Victor (my 501CM)!
Thank you all for your input! What a great place to hang out, and learn from each other. 🫡
 

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That is the Bogen/Manfrotto bracket I use too. Mine has a wider band that connects with velcro instead of the metal ring. Either one works great. Not quite as inventive as the custom one but very useable.
 
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With all the resurgence of film, does anyone think Hasselblad will come out with a 504CM to jump back in?
To my knowledge, there has never been a commercially-available 6x6 sensor, and I love the square format for so many reasons. Standing by for passionate replies.
Film has always been, to me, the "right" way to do things.
As a former lab owner/manager, the magic of the latent image--waiting for its curtain call--is still humbling. It brings a smile every time I hang up a roll of my Delta/Ektar/Ektachrome film to dry--and see that what was in my mind's eye has been captured and can now be savored.
 

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With all the resurgence of film, does anyone think Hasselblad will come out with a 504CM to jump back in?
To my knowledge, there has never been a commercially-available 6x6 sensor, and I love the square format for so many reasons. Standing by for passionate replies.

It would probably require a miracle of the most extreme kind to have this happen.
 

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With all the resurgence of film, does anyone think Hasselblad will come out with a 504CM to jump back in?
To my knowledge, there has never been a commercially-available 6x6 sensor, and I love the square format for so many reasons. Standing by for passionate replies.
Film has always been, to me, the "right" way to do things.
As a former lab owner/manager, the magic of the latent image--waiting for its curtain call--is still humbling. It brings a smile every time I hang up a roll of my Delta/Ektar/Ektachrome film to dry--and see that what was in my mind's eye has been captured and can now be savored.
The Chinese company DJI (makers of the wildly successful drones) is now the major shareholder in HB, I believe.

I completely agree about the smile when pulling negatives out of the soup: it keeps me doing what otherwise seems so quixotic.
 

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With all the resurgence of film, does anyone think Hasselblad will come out with a 504CM to jump back in?
To my knowledge, there has never been a commercially-available 6x6 sensor, and I love the square format for so many reasons. Standing by for passionate replies.
Film has always been, to me, the "right" way to do things.
As a former lab owner/manager, the magic of the latent image--waiting for its curtain call--is still humbling. It brings a smile every time I hang up a roll of my Delta/Ektar/Ektachrome film to dry--and see that what was in my mind's eye has been captured and can now be savored.

The owners of Hasselblad do not give a damn about film camera sales.
 
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So sad. Victor would be totally disappointed since his reputation was established with professionals using film. I believe 2013--the year they shut down their film camera production, if memory serves--was a dark time. There are many of us here on Photrio who use and appreciate the 500-series Hasselblads, and my hope is a continuation of their reliability--at least until my 100th birthday in 2045 😅
 

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I'll suggest that you use or build a vertical lens support from a hunter's "Shooting stick" or angled bi-leg tool, with 'a "Y" shaped cradle, or a good monopod, with a cradle, which will support the larger lenses, without needing a threaded port on the lens to mechanically attach the lens to.

To use these you just need place the camera on the tripod and, with the lens supported by hand, with the leg of the stick loosened, while you locate the shooter's stick at the appropriate 'midway' point for maximum support in that position, with the support firm to both ground and lens in position.

All that is awkward here is, instead of the single supporting of the lens and camera, is learning to quickly position place, adjust and lock the lens and it's separate support, from the tripod, , quickly and firmly.

You can buy quality shooting sticks at Bass Pro, Cabela's, Walmarts and hunting shops, just be sure the cradles are wide enough for your lens, or make your own wide spaced horse shoe shaped cradle out of wood, plywood, even layers of dense plywood, well glued, all with a #20 ¼ nut or larger size when needed.

Custom made cradles, or hard to find and expensive, locking sleds or otherwise are fine for those that'll not mind the expense, but those of us that need to look elsewhere for solutions for our photo needs, can find or make do with kit outside the "normal" manufactured and "approved" odds and ends to get the best out of our photography, which is the only concern for shooters, not collectors.

IMO.
 
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