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Just to clarify a few points (I play with movie film a bit)

1) Movie film numbers starting with 5 are 35mm, starting with 7 are 16mm.
2) Movie film is generally supplied on a 2 inch core. As someone said, sticking a saved 1 inch core will make an adaptor for your bulk loader. The last roll of Fomapan 100 bulk film I got from Freestyle was on a 2 inch core.
3) 100ft lenghts are often put on what is called an S-83 spool. it holds 100ft and had a 1/4 inch square hole, and should fit most bulk loaders, this is sometimes called "the eyemo spool" as it does fit the B&H Eyemo hand held 35mm camera. The eyemo is tough enough to survive a few crashes!
4) any of the colour negative Movie films will have the REM-JET back, and are made for Process ECN-2
5) 5222 and 5231 are B&W films.
6) the ektachrome 100D should be process E-6. The video news film was mostly made in 16mm, but the VNF process is no longer suported.
7) it has been a long time since Dale Labs sold Movie film, but I understand they still will process it, on a once weekly special order basis.
8) Movie camera film has B&H perforations as opposed to the KS perforations found on still film, and movie print film. This should not cause any problems with most still cameras. the difference is the B&H perfs have rounded ends.
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Different perf sizes ( Cine ) on polyester based films, through film camera's....I don't think so......

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Different perf sizes ( Cine ) on polyester based films, through film camera's....I don't think so......

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I agree, my camera is worth more than that to me. I'd prefer to take my chances with the expired stuff being sold on Ebay.
 

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Edit: I see you are talking about polyester based, maybe an issue with autowind then?

The perf size difference is only shape, instead of square:
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I suppose it could be an issue if running at full tilt through a Nikon F3H at 13 FPS, but having run rolls of the BH sprocket stuff through a regular F3, N80, FE, no problems at all.
However, are bottom loaded rangefinders (expensive) a problem? I cant load them correctly with any film.
 
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Different perf sizes ( Cine ) on polyester based films, through film camera's....I don't think so......

Simon ILFORD Photo / HARMAN technology Limited :

Who's talking polyester films? Everything I've seen discussed here is normal acetate cine camera film. Kodak usually puts a 2 or 3 at the head of the film number if it's Estar based, for instance if they had ever made an Estar version of Ektachrome 100D (they didn't) it would likely have had the part number 2285.

I have run some Estar cine films through my F-1 New (with motor FN) with no problems whatsoever, but those were various lab and print films, not camera films.

(And I've run Estar based 16mm film through my Photec high speed camera but that was specifically designed for it... it tends to make acetate film explode under acceleration ;-) )

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Different perf sizes ( Cine ) on polyester based films, through film camera's....I don't think so......
Simon

Where is you sense of adventure Simon.. :smile:

Movie Negative and other CAMERA films are traditionally on Acetate base. LAB and PRINT films are on Poly base.

While the perfs ARE different, and even the spacing is slightly different, it should not upset a typical STILL camera. You might have problems running Still Film through a movie camera. The difference in spacing is 4 ten-thousands of an inch per perf, and you don't know how much old still film has shrunk.

The Bell and howel perfs are also a tiny bit smaller, but as the original Leica was made to use movie film, I would imagine that most cameras if they use the sprockets for advance can accommodate the Bell and Howell perfs.

I know I have not had an issue, even with my old roll of 200 feet of ILFORD Pan-F movie film I bought out of date a couple of years after it was discontinued. Only funky thing with that is the Wording "Ilford Safety FIlm" that reads correctly from the EMUSION side (which makes very good sense for the way that movies were edited by hand)

Yes - Caution is needed, and the only colour Movie stock that can be used for still Shooting without a lot of hassle are the ektachrome stocks. (I forget if the 64 was ever made in 35mm)
 

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Just in case anyone is still looking for some ready-to-go 100' rolls of this stuff to play with (shameless self-promotion!)

(there was a url link here which no longer exists)

Duncan
 
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