BrianShaw
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Seems like every night is a full moon on the Internet...
Seems like every night is a full moon on the Internet...+1
I think there's enough room in this World to allow everyone to choose how they operate rather than dogmatically decrying any one certain way of operating. But of course, I might be BLUE COLLAR to think this way; common scum that I am...
Is there a full moon out tonight?
I feel the same about using meters vs Sunny-16...I tell my Intro to Digital students to look at the LCD after each shot and do an analysis; you would be a fool not to use such a tool, especially when you are just learning to understand exposure. I also have them bracket so that they can analyze exposures on the computer as they really don't know what a good exposure is yet. As they become more fluid we add the Histogram to appreciate highlights and dark tones.
I watch new students develop terribly exposed or blank rolls or rolls of poor focus or DoF. I don't listen to that blue-collar attitude that shooting without the LCD teaches you...fill in the blank here. It is a waste of time and materials. The digital students after 1 semester far outstrip the film students in their ability to handle a camera. The folk who can teach anything but film refuse to admit that. We just got rid of one of those, thank goodness.
Film folk don't have that facility. If they did from the git-go, they would be fools not to use it. If you don't use it now because you have a zillion years of experience, well, more power to ya. If you don't want to use it for any reason (look ma, no hands) that is up to you. To decry such a method as chimping is being small and smarmy. I'm not impressed. Sneering is not an argument.
It also has to do with the fact that many folks purse their lips while checking their image...To "chimp" is sort of an abbreviation of "check image" - used with a bit of a derogatory tone by some.
My understanding is that the term derived from the notion that people who 'chimp' make sounds like "ooh ooh ooh" as they look at their latest artistic masterpiece on the back of their cameraTo "chimp" is sort of an abbreviation of "check image" - used with a bit of a derogatory tone by some.
But this thread is more about odd behavioral habits that are hard to break even when they make no sense. Humans are funny animals sometimes.
... I press the shutter on my Leica IIIc, then hold the camera away and look at the leather covered back expecting to see a preview screen. A few minutes later, I do the same thing, knowing there is nothing there and laugh at myself.
For fun, you can tape something on the back of your Leica, such as:
- photo of a chimpanzee grinning
- the words "GREAT SHOT!"
- a nice photo
- a photo of the back of a Sony A7R
For fun, you can tape something on the back of your Leica, such as:
- photo of a chimpanzee grinning
- the words "GREAT SHOT!"
- a nice photo
- a photo of the back of a Sony A7R
Well I definitely need all the help I can get!Not sure if anyone was sneering - certainly not my intent.
I should apologize because I've discovered that how I write or say things often confuses people - sometimes to the exact opposite of what I mean. I will have to be more careful.
To this matter... I'm just not in the habit of looking at my photos after I made them. I agree this could be to my detriment. As you say - and I agree - there's no problem with people using all the tools at their disposal.
I don't want to remove the screen from the back of my camera, but I often prefer not to look at it any more than necessary.
That’s very impressive self-control!I never chimp, not even with digital.
One of the concerns with chimping is that even the best screens don't always give you the information you think they do.
Not that the information isn't useful, but rather that it can be misleading.
If having a quick peak afterwards on a small screen leads you to being sloppy in your execution - a version of "I can fix it in post" I guess - then having the screen available is a mixed blessing.
There is a flow to photography, and I find looking at the screen frequently can disrupt that flow for me. I don't want to remove the screen from the back of my camera, but I often prefer not to look at it any more than necessary.
Painter's tape and a sharpie are your friend!I routinely look at the back of my film cameras ... and get mad at myself for not labeling the camera with the film it contained.
Unless they turn those features off.Mirrorless shooters have histogram and everything else right in the viewfinder. You can say a mirrorless shooter is always chimping.
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