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Hi there....id like to print up 5x4 b+w negatives....its been a very loooooonnnnnnggggggg time since I've done this....

......since I'm going to be developing my own negatives and scanning them I'd also like to print some out for old times sake. When I did my degree in Graphic Design I used to spend loads of time in the darkroom and got quite good at printing so I'd like to revisit my late teens early twenties! hehe heh

Minimum requirement is being able to print 5 x 4 negatives.....not contemplating colour at all......and printing large is always an attractive option hence I need a long coloumn I guess.

Totally out of touch with lenses etc for this all too.....as I said....starting from zero again....
 

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there are a lot of good buys out there these days. depending on what part of the world your living in; the US. besler 45, saunders 4500, might be a few durst around but they may be harder to find.
 

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Beseler 45's, Omega "D" series, and, to a lesser extent Saunders LPL 45xx, enlargers are common in the US used market. Of the bunch, I prefer the Omega machines; not because I think they are any better or worse than the others, but because there is a wealth of information and spare parts available for them. Harry Taylor has a web site at http://www.classic-enlargers.com/, and can provide many parts and services for these machines. I'm a satisfied customer.

For a lamphouse, don't discount using a color head with built in dichroic filters. These are available, often for less money, than comparable condenser type lamphouses and offer a couple of very distinct advantages. For starters, the magenta and yellow filtration can be used for contrast control with variable contrast papers. Once you get used to it, you'll not want to start messing around with discreet variable contrast filters. Being diffuse light sources, they are more forgiving of small flaws and dust specs. Small scratches to the support side of the film will often be completely invisible. Any dust specs or fine scratches that do show will be fairly easy to spot out. Of course this doesn't mean that a diffuse lamp house allows you to be completely careless about cleanliness. It just makes things easier.

You might read that condenser type lamphouses produce sharper images. Pure nonsense. Sharpness, or more accurately resolution, is determined by the quality of the lens, the accuracy of focus, and the alignment of the machine itself. They do provide slightly, and I do mean slightly, more print contrast than a diffuse light source, which can give the impression that the print is sharper than it is. This is inconsequential, and can be compensated for by using a bit more magenta filtration in the light path or simply by developing your film to a slightly higher contrast index by extending the development time a bit.

Lenses are a hotly debated topic. Here's the skinny. Any of the six element lenses produced by Nikon, Schneider, and Rodenstock are better than good. There are some other brands out there that are likely as good. Some of the Rokkors and Fujinons are real sleepers and perform just as well as the equivalent lenses from the big 3 manufacturers. Don't get yourself into fits over which to choose. Simply avoid the entry level lines of lenses, and you'll give up nothing in image quality. For 35 mm. work, you'll want a good 50 mm. lens. Medium format negatives, up to 6x7 cm. can be handled with a good 80 mm. lens. For 4x5 work, you need to look at either a 135 mm. or a 150 mm. lens. The 135 mm lens will give you a little bit greater enlargement than a 150. From Nikon, the high quality lenses are the 50 mm f/2.8, and the 80 mm. f/5.6. They did not make a budget quality lens for large format work. Schneider's Componon-S series of lenses and Rodenstock's Rodagon series are the equivalents. Avoid Schneider's Componon (no "S") and Rodenstocks Rogonar lines. They are good lenses for modest enlargements, but they are not top of the line. Lenses designated "APO" are extreme high performance lenses, that are often touted as being the best thing to come along since sliced bread. That's true if you go in for enlargements greater than 10x or so and demand the utmost image quality. It also means that everything else, and I do mean everything, in the chain is equal to the task. If there is a slight misalignment of the enlarger, a slight misfocus of the enlarging lens, a less than stellar taking lens on the camera, a little bit of camera shake, or any one of a number of variables that are not completely perfect, the whole point of using an APO lens is nullified. These lenses command a price commensurate with their reputation. It is often money not well spent. You'll do better to invest in a good grain focusing microscope to insure that the image on the baseboard is truly in focus, and not almost in focus.
 
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I agree with Frank concering Omega, I have a D 3 that I bought 30 years ago and just bought some parts. Omega Ds can use color heads, condenser heads, and/or cold light. As models range from the D2 to D5 you need to do some research on the differnt models. I almost bought a D5 XL, but my ceiling to high enough. Bessler is also quite common, but parts seem a little harder to find. I have seen some Durst 4X5 around and seem to be quailty enlargers. In a pinch even a Federal or Kodak will work.
 

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Since you want to print 5x4 negatives, what's available in the U.S. may not be an issue. Durst, and Devere might be good choices in addition to some of the others already mentioned. Even though you don't want to print color, color heads are nice for working with variable contrast papers, and are much more common than dichro VC heads.
Excellent lenses are available cheaply, everyone gravitates to the Schneiders, Rodenstocks and Nikors, which are available for a small fraction of what they used to cost.

Barry
BTW, Welcome!
 
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I asked myself this question all too much over the course of the last year. I would say:

If you have no budgetary limits and lots of patience: Durst Laborator 1200 (I have this) or Devere 504, with Saunders 4500 just a little bit behind - Any of these would be a great, great, great enlarger to have. If you methodically and patiently scour E-bay and Craigslist you should be able to find excellent examples with all essential accessories (I can't stress how important this is) for between $500 and $750. Some will say that price is a little low, but I don't think so if you live in a metropolitan area in the US. If you live in an isolated area or overseas, well then, you may pay more. I've seen Saunders at that price level several times, the Durst a couple of times and ended up with an excellent Durst 1200 for $500. The Devere is a little less frequently seen in my experience.

Medium level budget and slightly less patience: Omega D5 or D6 or Beseler 45MX (newer models); built like tanks, but not as refined in use as the ones listed above. $250-$400 for great examples, maybe less if you're really patient. I looked hard at a few D5s and thought they were quite nice.

Bargain basement: Omega D2; you can find them everywhere and get them cheap. $100 - $200 no problem.

Before people start pelting me with arguments on how I've slighted their enlarger and don't know what I'm talking about, please let me say that in the right hands any one of these enlargers (and countless others not mentioned here) is capable of producing the best work possible. The best tools in the wrong hands are worse than the worst tools in the right hands. Don't fret over it in any case. Just think how lucky you are to have all these options at low prices compared to when these enlargers were originally released.

Last point: don't settle for an enlarger that has problems or that doesn't have all the necessary condensers, film holders, or other accessories that you think you'll need. You'll end up paying through the nose to collect those pieces later. A little patience goes a long way.

HAPPY PRINTING!!!!!!!
 

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If you go with a D2 (very simple, easy to get parts), get a D2V. It is much, much easier to use with filters and for other formats. If money is not an object, most anything reasonably new would be great. If you noticed, nearly every 4x5 enlarger available in the US is listed already in this thread!
 
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